It could only be nobody other than Telstra spin doctors who would claim that
by sacking 4,500 staff, that they will improve service.

No doubt another India call centre is ready to go.

From:	Michael
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Fri, 17 Dec 2004 22:08:32 GMT

"thegoons" wrote in message
news:32efd8F3ktddbU1@individual.net...
> It could only be nobody other than Telstra spin doctors who would claim
that
> by sacking 4,500 staff, that they will improve service.
>
> No doubt another India call centre is ready to go.

I heard it was middle management and more like 11k of staff

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Sat, 18 Dec 2004 09:41:15 +1100

Michael wrote in message
news:ANIwd.76494$K7.68136@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> thegoons wrote

>> It could only be nobody other than Telstra spin
>> doctors who would claim that by sacking 4,500
>> staff, that they will improve service.

>> No doubt another India call centre is ready to go.

> I heard it was middle management

That's Telstra's official position.

> and more like 11k of staff

And that is pig ignorant union bullshit.

Gunna be interesting to see if the current policy on offshore call
centers gets binned in the process of flogging off the rest of Telstra.

If they've got any sense at all, it will be.

From:	Michael
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Fri, 17 Dec 2004 22:54:51 GMT

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
news:32h5keF3k75b1U1@individual.net...
>
> Michael wrote in message
> news:ANIwd.76494$K7.68136@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > thegoons wrote
>
> >> It could only be nobody other than Telstra spin
> >> doctors who would claim that by sacking 4,500
> >> staff, that they will improve service.
>
> >> No doubt another India call centre is ready to go.
>
> > I heard it was middle management
>
> That's Telstra's official position.
>
> > and more like 11k of staff
>
> And that is pig ignorant union bullshit.
>
> Gunna be interesting to see if the current policy on offshore call
> centers gets binned in the process of flogging off the rest of Telstra.

Of course it will.

> If they've got any sense at all, it will be.

They will probably go down the tricky-dicky Optus way "no Telstra staff
member in a call centre will lose their job"

translated means
"we will sack all the contractors (50% of the centre), and replace those
jobs in india", and that means the remaining 50% dont lose their job"

>
>

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Sat, 18 Dec 2004 10:16:01 +1100

Michael wrote in message
news:%sJwd.76535$K7.2902@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Michael wrote
>>> thegoons wrote

>>>> It could only be nobody other than Telstra spin
>>>> doctors who would claim that by sacking 4,500
>>>> staff, that they will improve service.

>>>> No doubt another India call centre is ready to go.

>>> I heard it was middle management

>> That's Telstra's official position.

>>> and more like 11k of staff

>> And that is pig ignorant union bullshit.

Union lies, actually.

>> Gunna be interesting to see if the current policy on offshore call
>> centers gets binned in the process of flogging off the rest of Telstra.

> Of course it will.

We'll see. Wouldnt be the first time that Telstra
cant even manage the most basic stuff.

>> If they've got any sense at all, it will be.

> They will probably go down the tricky-dicky Optus way
> "no Telstra staff member in a call centre will lose their job"

> translated means
> "we will sack all the contractors (50% of the centre), and replace those
> jobs in india", and that means the remaining 50% dont lose their job"

If they have any sense they'll sack the lot. Sooner the better.

From:	Tony Lathouras
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:34:48 +1100

"thegoons" wrote in message
news:32efd8F3ktddbU1@individual.net...
> It could only be nobody other than Telstra spin doctors who would claim
> that by sacking 4,500 staff, that they will improve service.
>

4500 less staff means less dunnies! Look out Michael!!!!

From:	Intel Inside
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Fri, 17 Dec 2004 03:41:17 GMT

LOL

"Tony Lathouras" wrote in message
news:cptgjn$1iml$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>
> "thegoons" wrote in message
> news:32efd8F3ktddbU1@individual.net...
>> It could only be nobody other than Telstra spin doctors who would claim
>> that by sacking 4,500 staff, that they will improve service.
>>
>
> 4500 less staff means less dunnies! Look out Michael!!!!
>
>

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:35:47 +1100

thegoons wrote in
message news:32efd8F3ktddbU1@individual.net...

> It could only be nobody other than Telstra spin doctors who would claim that
> by sacking 4,500 staff, that they will improve service.

> No doubt another India call centre is ready to go.

The reality is that they know the govt has control of the senate
so they dont need to pander to the Nat voters anymore.

From:	Intel Inside
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Fri, 17 Dec 2004 03:42:31 GMT

They've been taking lessons from Bob Carr's train philosophy.
ie. cut the service to make it better

From:	Don
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Thu, 6 Jan 2005 12:28:44 +1000

Get used to it, voip will shake this industry to its knees

Imagine Telstra as just one of many isp's

"thegoons" wrote in message
news:32efd8F3ktddbU1@individual.net...
> It could only be nobody other than Telstra spin doctors who would claim
that
> by sacking 4,500 staff, that they will improve service.
>
> No doubt another India call centre is ready to go.
>
>

From:	Kwyjibo
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	6 Jan 2005 03:17:30 GMT

"Don" said

> Get used to it, voip will shake this industry to its knees

Not likely. The same claims were made when the market was opened up for other
carriers to handle local calls and line rental.
You'll still end up with the major players (Telstra etc.) having the majority
of the market with the others running around like headless chickens.

>
> Imagine Telstra as just one of many isp's

They already are. What's your point?

--

Kwyj.

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From:	Michael
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Thu, 06 Jan 2005 08:28:22 GMT

"Kwyjibo" wrote in message
news:Xns95D692B0658EEssss@130.133.1.4...
> "Don" said
>
> > Get used to it, voip will shake this industry to its knees
>
> Not likely. The same claims were made when the market was opened up for
other
> carriers to handle local calls and line rental.

and when mobiles were introduced, cable internet, adsl etc etc

> You'll still end up with the major players (Telstra etc.) having the
majority
> of the market with the others running around like headless chickens.

From:	Don
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:37:06 +1000

When everbody and every device is connected who will pay for a phone call.
They will pay for fixed monthly access to the net but thats all. wether it
be wifi, wimax, cable etc. anybody can supply that. Telstra will not be the
monster that it is now
technology does not stand still

"Kwyjibo" wrote in message
news:Xns95D692B0658EEssss@130.133.1.4...
> "Don" said
>
> > Get used to it, voip will shake this industry to its knees
>
> Not likely. The same claims were made when the market was opened up for
other
> carriers to handle local calls and line rental.
> You'll still end up with the major players (Telstra etc.) having the
majority
> of the market with the others running around like headless chickens.
>
> >
> > Imagine Telstra as just one of many isp's
>
>
> They already are. What's your point?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Kwyj.
>
> (Remove your panties to reply by email)

From:	Tony Lathouras
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:58:03 +1100

Twas the night before xmas
And all through the dunnies
There was not one tough skid mark
Not even one runny

Ellis turned up
Toilet Duck in hand
He was ready to scrub
But his job had been canned!

He said, "you cant sack me,
you see I will do this for free,
I'll clean up the shit,
and even their pee!"

They said "No no Son,
you see, you have all got the sack
there is nothing to clean here,
not one dirty ass crack".

He walked away slowly
With a tear in his eye
But a quick thought of Zig
Put a bulge back near his thigh

Security said, "Piss off you sicko,
you dunny cleaning fuck,
go back to that newsgroup
where you act like a shmuck"

Ellis yelled "No!,
you don't undertand,
they all look up to me,
I am their number one man!

Security said, "I will give you some advice son,
and this comes for free,
You will never be as smart,
as that shit and that pee.

And with this,
Security bid him farewell
And he thanked God up above
To be rid of that smell.

From:	Thomas 'bacco\|007' Baxter
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:32:23 +1100

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:58:03 +1100, Tony Lathouras wrote:

> Twas the night before xmas

this comes close to post of the year for me
--
aDTVinfo - http://bacco007.dropbear.id.au

From:	Michael
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Sun, 19 Dec 2004 05:57:34 GMT

"Thomas 'bacco|007' Baxter" wrote in message
news:3mosfnisaoha$.dlg@adtvinfo.info...
> On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:58:03 +1100, Tony Lathouras wrote:
>
> > Twas the night before xmas
>
> this comes close to post of the year for me

Slap, slap, slap, the little men all clap themselves on the back.

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:48:19 +1100

"Michael" wrote in message
news:iL8xd.78577$K7.15326@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Thomas 'bacco|007' Baxter" wrote in message
> news:3mosfnisaoha$.dlg@adtvinfo.info...
>> On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:58:03 +1100, Tony Lathouras wrote:
>>
>> > Twas the night before xmas
>>
>> this comes close to post of the year for me
>
>
> Slap, slap, slap, the little men all clap themselves on the back.

Even you should be able to wank yourself out of your
predicament better than that pathetic effort, dunny child.

From:	Charlie Wong
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:37:33 +1100

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:58:03 +1100, "Tony Lathouras"
wrote:

>Twas the night before xmas
>And all through the dunnies
>There was not one tough skid mark
>Not even one runny
>
>Ellis turned up
>Toilet Duck in hand
>He was ready to scrub
>But his job had been canned!
>
>He said, "you cant sack me,
>you see I will do this for free,
>I'll clean up the shit,
>and even their pee!"
>
>They said "No no Son,
>you see, you have all got the sack
>there is nothing to clean here,
>not one dirty ass crack".
>
>He walked away slowly
>With a tear in his eye
>But a quick thought of Zig
>Put a bulge back near his thigh
>
>Security said, "Piss off you sicko,
>you dunny cleaning fuck,
>go back to that newsgroup
>where you act like a shmuck"
>
>Ellis yelled "No!,
>you don't undertand,
>they all look up to me,
>I am their number one man!
>
>Security said, "I will give you some advice son,
>and this comes for free,
>You will never be as smart,
>as that shit and that pee.
>
>And with this,
>Security bid him farewell
>And he thanked God up above
>To be rid of that smell.

LOL, I love it.

From:	Rod Speed
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:48:00 +1100

Tad cruel, but hilarious too |-)

Tony Lathouras wrote in
message news:cq0gta$2nel$1@otis.netspace.net.au...

> Twas the night before xmas
> And all through the dunnies
> There was not one tough skid mark
> Not even one runny
>
> Ellis turned up
> Toilet Duck in hand
> He was ready to scrub
> But his job had been canned!
>
> He said, "you cant sack me,
> you see I will do this for free,
> I'll clean up the shit,
> and even their pee!"
>
> They said "No no Son,
> you see, you have all got the sack
> there is nothing to clean here,
> not one dirty ass crack".
>
> He walked away slowly
> With a tear in his eye
> But a quick thought of Zig
> Put a bulge back near his thigh
>
> Security said, "Piss off you sicko,
> you dunny cleaning fuck,
> go back to that newsgroup
> where you act like a shmuck"
>
> Ellis yelled "No!,
> you don't undertand,
> they all look up to me,
> I am their number one man!
>
> Security said, "I will give you some advice son,
> and this comes for free,
> You will never be as smart,
> as that shit and that pee.
>
> And with this,
> Security bid him farewell
> And he thanked God up above
> To be rid of that smell.
>
>

From:	Albinus
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:33:11 +1000

Tony Lathouras wrote:

I wonder if "Middle Management" includes dunny cleaners? :)

Love the rhyme as well :D

Albinus.

From:	Michael
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Sat, 18 Dec 2004 11:53:55 GMT

That was a very good effort. I am proud that you spent your time thinking
that up
Hero-worshipping at its best

"Tony Lathouras" wrote in message
news:cq0gta$2nel$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
> Twas the night before xmas
> And all through the dunnies
> There was not one tough skid mark
> Not even one runny
>
> Ellis turned up
> Toilet Duck in hand
> He was ready to scrub
> But his job had been canned!
>
> He said, "you cant sack me,
> you see I will do this for free,
> I'll clean up the shit,
> and even their pee!"
>
> They said "No no Son,
> you see, you have all got the sack
> there is nothing to clean here,
> not one dirty ass crack".
>
> He walked away slowly
> With a tear in his eye
> But a quick thought of Zig
> Put a bulge back near his thigh
>
> Security said, "Piss off you sicko,
> you dunny cleaning fuck,
> go back to that newsgroup
> where you act like a shmuck"
>
> Ellis yelled "No!,
> you don't undertand,
> they all look up to me,
> I am their number one man!
>
> Security said, "I will give you some advice son,
> and this comes for free,
> You will never be as smart,
> as that shit and that pee.
>
> And with this,
> Security bid him farewell
> And he thanked God up above
> To be rid of that smell.
>
>

From:	Kwyjibo.
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	18 Dec 2004 14:00:03 GMT

"Michael" said

> Hero-worshipping at its best
>

You've just proven this bit correct:

> Ellis yelled "No!,
> you don't undertand,
> they all look up to me,
> I am their number one man!

--

Kwyj.

(Remove your panties to reply by email)

From:	Peter Dingleberry
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Sat, 18 Dec 2004 20:16:50 +1100

"Tony Lathouras" wrote in message
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You've captured the moment so beautifully - brings a tear to the eye
Well done :)

From:	Jeremy Quirke
Subject:	Re: Telstra to sack 4,500 staff
Date:	Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:38:05 +1100

"Tony Lathouras" wrote in message
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>..

I take my hat off to you sir. A true work of art.