On 27 Dec 2004 16:58:22 -0800, "Deborah Sharavi"
wrote:

>>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:48:41 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>>wrote:
>>>Hitler was NOT Jewish, moron!
>
>3.14159@consultant.com wrote:
>>There are valid suspicions that his paternal grandparent may be
>>Jewish.
>
>There are none, outside propaganda fabrigated and disseminated by
>antisemites.

Nonsense. Toland states it in his bio of Hitler.

>Even if true, having a Jewish paternal grandfather doesn't
>make anyone Jewish.

Not according to the Nazis.

From:	flavia13 at verizon.net
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:26:01 GMT

<3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
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> On 27 Dec 2004 16:58:22 -0800, "Deborah Sharavi"
> wrote:
>
>>Even if true, having a Jewish paternal grandfather doesn't
>>make anyone Jewish.
>
>
> Not according to the Nazis.

Bud deal.
We do not allow our enemies to define us.
No one should.

Susan

From:	3.14159 at consultant.com
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:49:15 -0600

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:26:01 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
wrote:

>
><3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
>news:2pc1t09oams55u3epk1kv85q1jasbvk1ls@4ax.com...
>> On 27 Dec 2004 16:58:22 -0800, "Deborah Sharavi"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Even if true, having a Jewish paternal grandfather doesn't
>>>make anyone Jewish.
>>
>>
>> Not according to the Nazis.
>
>Bud deal.
>We do not allow our enemies to define us.
>No one should.
>
>Susan
>
Still don't get it, do ya?

The people with the guns make the rules.

Guns are why Israel still exists.

And the US too, along with every other nation of consequence.

From:	flavia13 at verizon.net
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:38:17 GMT

<3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:26:01 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
> wrote:
>
>>
>><3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
>>news:2pc1t09oams55u3epk1kv85q1jasbvk1ls@4ax.com...
>>> On 27 Dec 2004 16:58:22 -0800, "Deborah Sharavi"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Even if true, having a Jewish paternal grandfather doesn't
>>>>make anyone Jewish.
>>>
>>>
>>> Not according to the Nazis.
>>
>>Big deal.
>>We do not allow our enemies to define us.
>>No one should.
>>
>>Susan
>>
> Still don't get it, do ya?

No, I get it.
Neither of *you* do, tho'.
(However, you have shown yourself to know quite more than he does)

>
> The people with the guns make the rules.

But they don't make their "rules" into the truth.
>
> Guns are why Israel still exists.
>
> And the US too, along with every other nation of consequence.

But this is immaterial to what Riain and I are saying.
Just because someone with a gun says "You're a Jew" it doesn't make them a
Jew.

Susan

From:	Lynn K. Circle
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:14:32 GMT

"flavia13@verizon.net" wrote in message
news:dSgAd.18541$_62.18441@trnddc01...

> But this is immaterial to what Riain and I are saying.
> Just because someone with a gun says "You're a Jew" it doesn't make them a
> Jew.
>
> Susan
But that, too, is irrelevant to the argument. I don't think there is a
single post where anyone asserts that owning a gun gives them the right to
declare who is and who is not Jewish. Nor can I comprehend from where and
how you managed to reach this conclusion.

OF COURSE, owning weapons or not is irrelevant to someone's being Jewish.

HOWEVER, since the set of "Jews" has historically been a subset of the set
of "frequent victims," it seems only reasonable that Jews will utilize
whatever tools are available to minimize the probability of their becoming
victims again during their own lifetimes. Firearm ownership and training is
simply one of these tools, albeit very likely the most effective.

Lynn K. Circle
NRA, TSRA, American Legion
Happily Jewish

From:	flavia13 at verizon.net
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:29:29 GMT

"Lynn K. Circle" wrote in message
news:sZ%Ad.30503$wD4.10789@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> "flavia13@verizon.net" wrote in message
> news:dSgAd.18541$_62.18441@trnddc01...
>
>> But this is immaterial to what Riain and I are saying.
>> Just because someone with a gun says "You're a Jew" it doesn't make them
>> a Jew.
>>
>> Susan
> But that, too, is irrelevant to the argument. I don't think there is a
> single post where anyone asserts that owning a gun gives them the right to
> declare who is and who is not Jewish.

Well, maybe it's irrelevent to *that* argument.
I am only discussing that no one & nothing but Jewish law decides who is
Jewish.

Nor can I comprehend from where and
> how you managed to reach this conclusion.

I was not the one who said this at all.
I was arguing with someone who did make that statement - that because the
Nazis had guns, they got to decide who was/not Jewish.
At *most* they got to decide who they were going to treat as Jews, but
that's not the same thing, & it's not what was being said.

Susan
>
> OF COURSE, owning weapons or not is irrelevant to someone's being Jewish.
>
> HOWEVER, since the set of "Jews" has historically been a subset of the set
> of "frequent victims," it seems only reasonable that Jews will utilize
> whatever tools are available to minimize the probability of their becoming
> victims again during their own lifetimes. Firearm ownership and training
> is simply one of these tools, albeit very likely the most effective.
>
> Lynn K. Circle
> NRA, TSRA, American Legion
> Happily Jewish
>

From:	3.14159 at consultant.com
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:22:56 -0600

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:29:29 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
wrote:

>
>"Lynn K. Circle" wrote in message
>news:sZ%Ad.30503$wD4.10789@fe1.texas.rr.com...
>> "flavia13@verizon.net" wrote in message
>> news:dSgAd.18541$_62.18441@trnddc01...
>>
>>> But this is immaterial to what Riain and I are saying.
>>> Just because someone with a gun says "You're a Jew" it doesn't make them
>>> a Jew.
>>>
>>> Susan
>> But that, too, is irrelevant to the argument. I don't think there is a
>> single post where anyone asserts that owning a gun gives them the right to
>> declare who is and who is not Jewish.
>
>Well, maybe it's irrelevent to *that* argument.
>I am only discussing that no one & nothing but Jewish law decides who is
>Jewish.

And you can argue that until you are blue in the face.

What *I* am saying is that the Germans decided (for purposes of life
and death) who was Jewish according to THEIR standards.

And plenty of people who might not be considered Jewish according to
Jewish law are dead beacuse of it.

>Nor can I comprehend from where and
>> how you managed to reach this conclusion.
>
>I was not the one who said this at all.
>I was arguing with someone who did make that statement - that because the
>Nazis had guns, they got to decide who was/not Jewish.

Yes, that's quite true. Now, do I agree with their interpretation?
Probably not.

That makes no difference to the dead.

The people with the guns decide the law.

>At *most* they got to decide who they were going to treat as Jews, but
>that's not the same thing, & it's not what was being said.
>
>Susan
>>
>> OF COURSE, owning weapons or not is irrelevant to someone's being Jewish.
>>
>> HOWEVER, since the set of "Jews" has historically been a subset of the set
>> of "frequent victims," it seems only reasonable that Jews will utilize
>> whatever tools are available to minimize the probability of their becoming
>> victims again during their own lifetimes. Firearm ownership and training
>> is simply one of these tools, albeit very likely the most effective.
>>
>> Lynn K. Circle
>> NRA, TSRA, American Legion
>> Happily Jewish
>>
>

From:	3.14159 at consultant.com
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:24:32 -0600

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:38:17 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
wrote:

>
><3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
>news:6i33t0pm7jnjbundpndetm3rk4h0uu4hnt@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:26:01 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
>>>news:2pc1t09oams55u3epk1kv85q1jasbvk1ls@4ax.com...
>>>> On 27 Dec 2004 16:58:22 -0800, "Deborah Sharavi"
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Even if true, having a Jewish paternal grandfather doesn't
>>>>>make anyone Jewish.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not according to the Nazis.
>>>
>>>Big deal.
>>>We do not allow our enemies to define us.
>>>No one should.
>>>
>>>Susan
>>>
>> Still don't get it, do ya?
>
>No, I get it.
>Neither of *you* do, tho'.
>(However, you have shown yourself to know quite more than he does)
>
>>
>> The people with the guns make the rules.
>
>But they don't make their "rules" into the truth.

Somehow, being alive with a gun beats being dead without one.

6 million went willingly to their end; they believed that being
passive as long as you were 'in the right' made a difference.

it's kind of like being hit by the truck while you were in the
pedestrian crossing. You may have had the right of way, but the truck
dirver gets to go home to his family that night.

>> Guns are why Israel still exists.
>>
>> And the US too, along with every other nation of consequence.
>
>But this is immaterial to what Riain and I are saying.

Riain isn't saying anything. He is yelling incoherently.

>Just because someone with a gun says "You're a Jew" it doesn't make them a
>Jew.

No, but it might make you dead, even though according to Jewish law
you are not Jewish.
>Susan
>

From:	Frank Ney
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:55:33 -0500

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:24:32 -0600, an orbiting mind control laser caused
3.14159@consultant.com to write:

>6 million went willingly to their end; they believed that being
>passive as long as you were 'in the right' made a difference.

Either that, or they were expecting YHWH to turn Hitler into a pillar of salt
for his temerity.

Me, I'm passive until someone tries to bend me over. Then the Gadsten Flag and
the Jolly Rodger get hoisted up the mast. And it's even money which flag is on
top.

Frank Ney N4ZHG WV/EMT-B NRA(L) GOA CCRKBA JPFO ProvNRA LPWV
--
"Can anyone doubt that the (NY) Legislative Bill Drafting Commission is
populated by Tolkienesque creatures, terminally allergic to plain
English, who seek nothing but to sadistically torture lowly Family
Court Judges with circumlocutions that would confound a Mensa
convention collectively or Benjamin Cardozo reading alone."
- Judge W. Dennis Duggan
Albany County Family Court
VUONCINO v. FUHRMAN
3 Misc.3d 291, 776 N.Y.S.2d 694
United Airlines Must Die! http://www.dont-fly.com
Abuses by the BATF http://www.elfie.org/~croaker/batfabus.html

From:	Alex Cunningham
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:48:46 -0500

> "Frank Ney" wrote
> Me, I'm passive until someone tries to bend me over. Then the Gadsten
> Flag and
> the Jolly Rodger get hoisted up the mast. And it's even money which flag
> is on
> top.

The Jolly Roger I am familiar with. Care to explain the "Gadsten Flag" to
me.
It is something I have never heard of.
I am serious. I really would like to know.
Thanks.

--
Cheers.
Alex C.
There are 12,000,000 sheep in Ontario.
Problem is 9,000,000 of them think they are people.

From:	Riain Y. Barton
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Thu, 30 Dec 2004 00:45:23 -0500

The Gadsden flag is associated with Christopher Gadsden, who was a delegate
to the Second Continental Congress. He presented a flag to the Provincial
Congress of South Carolina on Friday, February 9, 1776. The journal of the
South Carolina congress describes the flag as "an elegant standard, such as
is said to be used by the commander-in-chief of the American navy; being a
yellow field, with a lively representation of a rattlesnake in the middle,
in the attitude of going to strike, and these words underneath, 'DONT TREAD
ON ME!' "
Devereaux Cannon and Christopher Koceja, 25 September 2001

In February of 1776 - Commodore Esek Hopkins' ships put to sea for first
time carrying a version of the Gadsden flag (yellow background, coiled
snake, 'Don't Tread on Me').
David S. Cohen, 21 December 1997

This flag was used, as described by Gadsden, as the Commodore's flag. No
apostrophe.
Dave Martucci, 21 December 1998

"Alex Cunningham" wrote in message
news:HIqdnfcwLKzUF07cRVn-vA@look.ca...
|
| > "Frank Ney" wrote
| > Me, I'm passive until someone tries to bend me over. Then the Gadsten
| > Flag and
| > the Jolly Rodger get hoisted up the mast. And it's even money which
flag
| > is on
| > top.
|
|
| The Jolly Roger I am familiar with. Care to explain the "Gadsten Flag" to
| me.
| It is something I have never heard of.
| I am serious. I really would like to know.
| Thanks.
|
| --
| Cheers.
| Alex C.
| There are 12,000,000 sheep in Ontario.
| Problem is 9,000,000 of them think they are people.
|
|

From:	Alex Cunningham
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:03:20 -0500

"Riain Y. Barton" wrote in message
news:89CdnWxiC5F_CU7cRVn-tg@comcast.com...
> The Gadsden flag is associated with Christopher Gadsden, who was a
> delegate
> to the Second Continental Congress. He presented a flag to the Provincial
> Congress of South Carolina on Friday, February 9, 1776. The journal of the
> South Carolina congress describes the flag as "an elegant standard, such
> as
> is said to be used by the commander-in-chief of the American navy; being a
> yellow field, with a lively representation of a rattlesnake in the middle,
> in the attitude of going to strike, and these words underneath, 'DONT
> TREAD
> ON ME!' "
> Devereaux Cannon and Christopher Koceja, 25 September 2001
>
> In February of 1776 - Commodore Esek Hopkins' ships put to sea for first
> time carrying a version of the Gadsden flag (yellow background, coiled
> snake, 'Don't Tread on Me').
> David S. Cohen, 21 December 1997
>
> This flag was used, as described by Gadsden, as the Commodore's flag. No
> apostrophe.
> Dave Martucci, 21 December 1998

Thank you for the explanation. I am now a little wiser. :-)

--
Cheers.
Alex C.
There are 12,000,000 sheep in Ontario.
Problem is 9,000,000 of them think they are people.

From:	flavia13 at verizon.net
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:58:41 GMT

"Frank Ney" wrote in message
news:6966t0l71rbfi4pt7fpl52ucndgg01ibg6@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:24:32 -0600, an orbiting mind control laser caused
> 3.14159@consultant.com to write:
>
>>6 million went willingly to their end;

What a sick little lie.

they believed that being
>>passive as long as you were 'in the right' made a difference.
>
> Either that, or they were expecting YHWH to turn Hitler into a pillar of
> salt
> for his temerity.

& yet another.

It's very nice for you all to sit back & judge, never having been in their
shoes.

Susan

From:	3.14159 at consultant.com
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:36:29 -0600

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:58:41 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
wrote:

>
>"Frank Ney" wrote in message
>news:6966t0l71rbfi4pt7fpl52ucndgg01ibg6@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:24:32 -0600, an orbiting mind control laser caused
>> 3.14159@consultant.com to write:
>>
>>>6 million went willingly to their end;
>
>What a sick little lie.

Not a lie; Jews didn't fight back, and they should've. The Warsaw
gheto uprising was fighting back done right.

>they believed that being
>>>passive as long as you were 'in the right' made a difference.
>>
>> Either that, or they were expecting YHWH to turn Hitler into a pillar of
>> salt
>> for his temerity.
>
>& yet another.
>
>It's very nice for you all to sit back & judge, never having been in their
>shoes.

I judge by the facts. Try getting a Jew in the US to wear a little
yellow star...

Try it with this Jew and you'll get a shit-storm of lead.

>Susan
>

From:	Riain Y. Barton
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500

Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his claim.

NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH PEOPLE
and JEWISH LAW decides that.

<3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
news:2pc1t09oams55u3epk1kv85q1jasbvk1ls@4ax.com...
| On 27 Dec 2004 16:58:22 -0800, "Deborah Sharavi"
| wrote:
|
| >>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:48:41 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
| >>wrote:
| >>>Hitler was NOT Jewish, moron!
| >
| >3.14159@consultant.com wrote:
| >>There are valid suspicions that his paternal grandparent may be
| >>Jewish.
| >
| >There are none, outside propaganda fabrigated and disseminated by
| >antisemites.
|
| Nonsense. Toland states it in his bio of Hitler.
|
|
| >Even if true, having a Jewish paternal grandfather doesn't
| >make anyone Jewish.
|
|
| Not according to the Nazis.
|
|

From:	You Know Who
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:32:23 -0800

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
wrote:

>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his claim.
>
>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH PEOPLE
>and JEWISH LAW decides that.

LOL

Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?

I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"

From:	flavia13 at verizon.net
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:27:32 GMT

"You Know Who" wrote in message
news:hah1t0199kd0irtaitk8958n39igpagh4u@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
> wrote:
>
>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his claim.
>>
>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH PEOPLE
>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>
> LOL
>
> Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
> claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>
> I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"

So you're saying that because someone has a gun (or, more guns than you), he
can redefine reality?
Man, I'm gonna have to get me one of them things.....

Susan
>
>

From:	3.14159 at consultant.com
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:41:52 -0600

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:27:32 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
wrote:

>
>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>news:hah1t0199kd0irtaitk8958n39igpagh4u@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his claim.
>>>
>>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>>
>> LOL
>>
>> Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>> claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>>
>> I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>
>So you're saying that because someone has a gun (or, more guns than you), he
>can redefine reality?
>Man, I'm gonna have to get me one of them things.....
>
>Susan
>>
I believe the poster is saying "because the nazis HAD the guns, they
got to make policy".

And the unarmed had no choice but to comply.

HTH

From:	flavia13 at verizon.net
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:35:53 GMT

<3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
news:l433t05hisrf4alpdkdi5ovjth715qcf16@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:27:32 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>>news:hah1t0199kd0irtaitk8958n39igpagh4u@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his
>>>>claim.
>>>>
>>>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH
>>>>PEOPLE
>>>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>>>
>>> LOL
>>>
>>> Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>>> claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>>>
>>> I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>>
>>So you're saying that because someone has a gun (or, more guns than you),
>>he
>>can redefine reality?
>>Man, I'm gonna have to get me one of them things.....
>>>
> I believe the poster is saying "because the nazis HAD the guns, they
> got to make policy".
>
> And the unarmed had no choice but to comply.
>
If that's what he's saying then why did he respond with saying that *I'm*
nuts for saying that only Jews get to define Jews?

What *you* are saying is what happened, as opposed to what *I* was saying,
which is the truth - only Jewish law determines who is a Jew. Both of what
we are saying is right.
What *he* is saying is just plain stupid.

Susan

From:	You Know Who
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:23:00 -0800

From:	flavia13 at verizon.net
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:53:16 GMT

"You Know Who" wrote in message
news:8393t0tl9ckrtp8ionntke0ca1eijmm5te@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:35:53 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
> wrote:
>
>>
>><3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
>>news:l433t05hisrf4alpdkdi5ovjth715qcf16@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:27:32 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>>>>news:hah1t0199kd0irtaitk8958n39igpagh4u@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his
>>>>>>claim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH
>>>>>>PEOPLE
>>>>>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>>>>> claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>>>>
>>>>So you're saying that because someone has a gun (or, more guns than
>>>>you),
>>>>he
>>>>can redefine reality?
>>>>Man, I'm gonna have to get me one of them things.....
>>>>>
>>> I believe the poster is saying "because the nazis HAD the guns, they
>>> got to make policy".
>>>
>>> And the unarmed had no choice but to comply.
>>>
>>If that's what he's saying then why did he respond with saying that *I'm*
>>nuts for saying that only Jews get to define Jews?
>
> Probably because you'd have to be nuts for making such a statement.

No, I'd just have to be right.
The only nuts are those who pretend that people outside of a culture can
define who is/not a part of it.

Susan

From:	You Know Who
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Wed, 29 Dec 2004 06:05:51 -0800

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:53:16 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
wrote:

>
>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>news:8393t0tl9ckrtp8ionntke0ca1eijmm5te@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:35:53 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
>>>news:l433t05hisrf4alpdkdi5ovjth715qcf16@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:27:32 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>>>>>news:hah1t0199kd0irtaitk8958n39igpagh4u@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his
>>>>>>>claim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH
>>>>>>>PEOPLE
>>>>>>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>>>>>> claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>>>>>
>>>>>So you're saying that because someone has a gun (or, more guns than
>>>>>you),
>>>>>he
>>>>>can redefine reality?
>>>>>Man, I'm gonna have to get me one of them things.....
>>>>>>
>>>> I believe the poster is saying "because the nazis HAD the guns, they
>>>> got to make policy".
>>>>
>>>> And the unarmed had no choice but to comply.
>>>>
>>>If that's what he's saying then why did he respond with saying that *I'm*
>>>nuts for saying that only Jews get to define Jews?
>>
>> Probably because you'd have to be nuts for making such a statement.
>
>No, I'd just have to be right.

No, you'd have to be nuts.

>The only nuts are those who pretend that people outside of a culture can
>define who is/not a part of it.

the Nazi's did.

From:	3.14159 at consultant.com
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:22:00 -0600

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:35:53 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
wrote:

>
><3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
>news:l433t05hisrf4alpdkdi5ovjth715qcf16@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:27:32 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>>>news:hah1t0199kd0irtaitk8958n39igpagh4u@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his
>>>>>claim.
>>>>>
>>>>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH
>>>>>PEOPLE
>>>>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>>>>
>>>> LOL
>>>>
>>>> Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>>>> claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>>>
>>>So you're saying that because someone has a gun (or, more guns than you),
>>>he
>>>can redefine reality?
>>>Man, I'm gonna have to get me one of them things.....
>>>>
>> I believe the poster is saying "because the nazis HAD the guns, they
>> got to make policy".
>>
>> And the unarmed had no choice but to comply.
>>
>If that's what he's saying then why did he respond with saying that *I'm*
>nuts for saying that only Jews get to define Jews?

Um, what exactly are YOU trying to say?

>What *you* are saying is what happened, as opposed to what *I* was saying,
>which is the truth

What happened IS the truth, isn't it?

>- only Jewish law determines who is a Jew.

Except for purposes of extermination, as defined by the NSDAP.

>Both of what we are saying is right.

Look, being a Jew as defined by Jewish law is great for purposes of
Jewish ritual, marriage, bris, bar/bat mitzvah, burial etc.

I am not trying to fight with you..

>What *he* is saying is just plain stupid.

Of course he is stupid. If you look a bit at his posting history, you
will find that he's actually quite a moron, but amusing for purposes
of trying to educate.

>Susan
>

From:	You Know Who
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:54:39 -0800

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:22:00 -0600, 3.14159@consultant.com wrote:

>>On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:35:53 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
>> wrote:

>>What *you* are saying is what happened, as opposed to what *I* was saying,
>>which is the truth
>
>What happened IS the truth, isn't it?

OK! I think I see what we're dealing with now. :>

From:	Frank Ney
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:55:32 -0500

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:41:52 -0600, an orbiting mind control laser caused
3.14159@consultant.com to write:

>I believe the poster is saying "because the nazis HAD the guns, they
>got to make policy".
>
>And the unarmed had no choice but to comply.

Which is why Jews who support gun control mystify the rest of us. One would
think that "never again" would be a call to arms, not the bleating of a
professional victim.

Now I don't even pretend to be a Jew, but it seems to me that it would be a
better Mitzvah to learn the skills of defense against the freelance and the
official criminals as opposed to discourage the learning of such skills.

Frank Ney N4ZHG WV/EMT-B NRA(L) GOA CCRKBA JPFO ProvNRA LPWV
--
Government has four basic functions: Robbery, Rape, Slavery, Genocide.
The reason for this is that government, all government, is a criminal
enterprise. It has no legitimate purpose.
- Michael Bradshaw
http://www.ncc-1776.com/tle2004/tle298-20041121-02.html
United Airlines Must Die! http://www.dont-fly.com
Abuses by the BATF http://www.elfie.org/~croaker/batfabus.html

From:	flavia13 at verizon.net
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:55:25 GMT

"Frank Ney" wrote in message
news:a866t0habjso9q9s91mgtmu759jnkj75cd@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:41:52 -0600, an orbiting mind control laser caused
> 3.14159@consultant.com to write:
>
>>I believe the poster is saying "because the nazis HAD the guns, they
>>got to make policy".
>>
>>And the unarmed had no choice but to comply.
>
> Which is why Jews who support gun control mystify the rest of us. One
> would
> think that "never again" would be a call to arms, not the bleating of a
> professional victim.

And it seems to me that people who pride themselves on being ever-vigilant
could pretend that it is such.

Susan

From:	Binyamin Dissen
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Thu, 30 Dec 2004 13:08:06 +0200

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:55:32 -0500 Frank Ney wrote:

:>Which is why Jews who support gun control mystify the rest of us. One would
:>think that "never again" would be a call to arms, not the bleating of a
:>professional victim.

:>Now I don't even pretend to be a Jew, but it seems to me that it would be a
:>better Mitzvah to learn the skills of defense against the freelance and the
:>official criminals as opposed to discourage the learning of such skills.

When you take a close look at those Jews that support control, you will find
that they are also typically pro-abortion (D) voters who attend reformed or
conservative synagogues, i.e., Jews with little contact to Jewish heritage.

And while they support gun control for whom they determine to be the great
unwashed, like many other elitists (and the Hollywood crowd) they have
absolutely no problems with their bodyguards having weapons and see no
hypocrisy in doing a Rosie O'Donnell to protect themselves and their families.

--
Binyamin Dissen
http://www.dissensoftware.com

Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me,
you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain.

I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems,
especially those from irresponsible companies.

From:	You Know Who
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 06:26:05 -0800

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:27:32 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
wrote:

>
>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>news:hah1t0199kd0irtaitk8958n39igpagh4u@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his claim.
>>>
>>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>>
>> LOL
>>
>> Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>> claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>>
>> I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>
>So you're saying that because someone has a gun (or, more guns than you), he
>can redefine reality?
>Man, I'm gonna have to get me one of them things.....

So you're saying that only Jews determine who's Jewish? Talk about
altered reality....

From:	Riain Y. Barton
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Wed, 29 Dec 2004 02:07:06 -0500

From:	flavia13 at verizon.net
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:55:58 GMT

"Riain Y. Barton" wrote in message
news:XcqdnR08J8Rfy0_cRVn-1g@comcast.com...
> Who decided who is American and who is not? The French?

Good one!!

Susan
>
>
>
> "You Know Who" wrote in message
> news:t6r2t09s5sgip9dgs6od0s99ro12mr4cis@4ax.com...
> | On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:27:32 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
> | wrote:
> |
> | >So you're saying that because someone has a gun (or, more guns than
> you),
> he
> | >can redefine reality?
> | >Man, I'm gonna have to get me one of them things.....
> |
> | So you're saying that only Jews determine who's Jewish? Talk about
> | altered reality....
> |
> |
>

From:	You Know Who
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Wed, 29 Dec 2004 05:03:36 -0800

From:	flavia13 at verizon.net
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:56:35 GMT

"You Know Who" wrote in message
news:fma5t0hnt5r0031e14g4aeirv3p56l89e3@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 02:07:06 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
> wrote:
>
>>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>
>>| So you're saying that only Jews determine who's Jewish? Talk about
>>| altered reality....
>>|
>>Who decided who is American and who is not? The French?
>
> non sequitur

Not that you can prove, of course.

Susan

From:	You Know Who
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Wed, 29 Dec 2004 06:05:18 -0800

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:56:35 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
wrote:

>
>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>news:fma5t0hnt5r0031e14g4aeirv3p56l89e3@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 02:07:06 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>>
>>>| So you're saying that only Jews determine who's Jewish? Talk about
>>>| altered reality....
>>>|
>>>Who decided who is American and who is not? The French?
>>
>> non sequitur
>
>Not that you can prove, of course.

Already have. Here is more proof.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-33,GGLD:en&q=nazi+jews

From:	flavia13 at verizon.net
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:31:03 GMT

"You Know Who" wrote in message
news:t6r2t09s5sgip9dgs6od0s99ro12mr4cis@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:27:32 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>>news:hah1t0199kd0irtaitk8958n39igpagh4u@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his
>>>>claim.
>>>>
>>>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH
>>>>PEOPLE
>>>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>>>
>>> LOL
>>>
>>> Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>>> claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>>>
>>> I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>>
>>So you're saying that because someone has a gun (or, more guns than you),
>>he
>>can redefine reality?
>>Man, I'm gonna have to get me one of them things.....
>
> So you're saying that only Jews determine who's Jewish? Talk about
> altered reality....

Yes, we were - yours.
& I see that you refuse to leave it.

Susanh

From:	You Know Who
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:22:14 -0800

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:31:03 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
wrote:

>
>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>news:t6r2t09s5sgip9dgs6od0s99ro12mr4cis@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:27:32 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>>>news:hah1t0199kd0irtaitk8958n39igpagh4u@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his
>>>>>claim.
>>>>>
>>>>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH
>>>>>PEOPLE
>>>>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>>>>
>>>> LOL
>>>>
>>>> Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>>>> claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>>>
>>>So you're saying that because someone has a gun (or, more guns than you),
>>>he
>>>can redefine reality?
>>>Man, I'm gonna have to get me one of them things.....
>>
>> So you're saying that only Jews determine who's Jewish? Talk about
>> altered reality....
>
>Yes, we were - yours.
>& I see that you refuse to leave it.
>

I never entered your altered reality- I like blue sky. But you can
keep thinking that only Jews decide who's Jewish.... and just pretend
the 1940's never happened...

From:	flavia13 at verizon.net
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:52:23 GMT

"You Know Who" wrote in message
news:9093t0dskvdrbkab6ct3mguji800iaelb8@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:31:03 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>>news:t6r2t09s5sgip9dgs6od0s99ro12mr4cis@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:27:32 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>>>>news:hah1t0199kd0irtaitk8958n39igpagh4u@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his
>>>>>>claim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH
>>>>>>PEOPLE
>>>>>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>>>>> claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>>>>
>>>>So you're saying that because someone has a gun (or, more guns than
>>>>you),
>>>>he
>>>>can redefine reality?
>>>>Man, I'm gonna have to get me one of them things.....
>>>
>>> So you're saying that only Jews determine who's Jewish? Talk about
>>> altered reality....
>>
>>Yes, we were - yours.
>>& I see that you refuse to leave it.
>>
>
> I never entered your altered reality

I don't have an altered one to enter.
That's your domain.

> - I like blue sky.

And I like the sky that isn't really blue, but only appears as such due to
the curvature of the atmosphere. Thanks for admitting just how little you
know yet again.

But you can
> keep thinking that only Jews decide who's Jewish....

Yes, I can, because that's the truth.

and just pretend
> the 1940's never happened...

And you can pretend that this has any bearing on who is & isn't Jewish.

Susan

From:	You Know Who
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Wed, 29 Dec 2004 06:04:05 -0800

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:52:23 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
wrote:

>
>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>news:9093t0dskvdrbkab6ct3mguji800iaelb8@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:31:03 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>>>news:t6r2t09s5sgip9dgs6od0s99ro12mr4cis@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:27:32 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"You Know Who" wrote in message
>>>>>news:hah1t0199kd0irtaitk8958n39igpagh4u@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his
>>>>>>>claim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH
>>>>>>>PEOPLE
>>>>>>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>>>>>> claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>>>>>
>>>>>So you're saying that because someone has a gun (or, more guns than
>>>>>you),
>>>>>he
>>>>>can redefine reality?
>>>>>Man, I'm gonna have to get me one of them things.....
>>>>
>>>> So you're saying that only Jews determine who's Jewish? Talk about
>>>> altered reality....
>>>
>>>Yes, we were - yours.
>>>& I see that you refuse to leave it.
>>>
>>
>> I never entered your altered reality
>
>I don't have an altered one to enter.

Apparently you did, if you think the Germans didn't decide who was
Jewish and who wasn't.

>> - I like blue sky.
>
>And I like the sky that isn't really blue,

Ah, so you *are* on another planet, as I suspected.

>
>But you can
>> keep thinking that only Jews decide who's Jewish....
>
>Yes, I can, because that's the truth.

Only in your strange, little world.

From:	3.14159 at consultant.com
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:39:42 -0600

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:32:23 -0800, You Know Who

wrote:

>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>wrote:
>
>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his claim.
>>
>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH PEOPLE
>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>
>LOL
>
>Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>
>I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>
This fool Riain is quite a character!

From:	flavia13 at verizon.net
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:33:25 GMT

<3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
news:k133t0ttvjop87k2in4vbi70omgds6s3ld@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:32:23 -0800, You Know Who
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his claim.
>>>
>>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>>
>>LOL
>>
>>Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>>claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>>
>>I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>>
> This fool Riain is quite a character!

It's the 2 of you who are showing yourselves to be complete idiots.
The one of you is pretending that Nazis get to define Jews, & the other
pretends that anyone is denying that they used their faulty reasoning to
murder people.

Susan
>
>

From:	3.14159 at consultant.com
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:15:16 -0600

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:33:25 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
wrote:

>
><3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
>news:k133t0ttvjop87k2in4vbi70omgds6s3ld@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:32:23 -0800, You Know Who
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his claim.
>>>>
>>>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>>>
>>>LOL
>>>
>>>Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>>>claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>>>
>>>I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>>>
>> This fool Riain is quite a character!
>
>It's the 2 of you who are showing yourselves to be complete idiots.
>The one of you is pretending that Nazis get to define Jews, & the other
>pretends that anyone is denying that they used their faulty reasoning to
>murder people.
>
>Susan

While you pretend to be an intellectual....

You clearly have zero knowledge of history, or Judaism.

From:	The Revd
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Wed, 29 Dec 2004 05:05:35 GMT

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:15:16 -0600, 3.14159@consultant.com wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:33:25 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
> wrote:
>
>>
>><3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
>>news:k133t0ttvjop87k2in4vbi70omgds6s3ld@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:32:23 -0800, You Know Who
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his claim.
>>>>>
>>>>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>>>>
>>>>LOL
>>>>
>>>>Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>>>>claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>>>>
>>>>I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>>>>
>>> This fool Riain is quite a character!
>>
>>It's the 2 of you who are showing yourselves to be complete idiots.
>>The one of you is pretending that Nazis get to define Jews, & the other
>>pretends that anyone is denying that they used their faulty reasoning to
>>murder people.
>>
>>Susan
>
>
>While you pretend to be an intellectual....
>
>You clearly have zero knowledge of history, or Judaism.

Of course. She's a thick Irish cunt who merely 'converted' to
jewdism. That makes her an honorary jew at best (or worst, according
to viewpoint).

From:	flavia13 at verizon.net
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:50:19 GMT

<3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
news:mj83t0th6hafst41hq2ar1ev6k8f16h08e@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:33:25 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
> wrote:
>
>>
>><3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
>>news:k133t0ttvjop87k2in4vbi70omgds6s3ld@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:32:23 -0800, You Know Who
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his
>>>>>claim.
>>>>>
>>>>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH
>>>>>PEOPLE
>>>>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>>>>
>>>>LOL
>>>>
>>>>Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>>>>claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>>>>
>>>>I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>>>>
>>> This fool Riain is quite a character!
>>
>>It's the 2 of you who are showing yourselves to be complete idiots.
>>The one of you is pretending that Nazis get to define Jews, & the other
>>pretends that anyone is denying that they used their faulty reasoning to
>>murder people.
>>
>>Susan
>
>
> While you pretend to be an intellectual....
>
> You clearly have zero knowledge of history, or Judaism.
>
Hahahaha!
yeah, right, whatever you say.
G-d, what an idiot....

Susan
>

From:	The Revd
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:25:28 GMT

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:50:19 GMT, "Suzy the convert"
wrote:

>
><3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
>news:mj83t0th6hafst41hq2ar1ev6k8f16h08e@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:33:25 GMT, "flavia13@verizon.net"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
>>>news:k133t0ttvjop87k2in4vbi70omgds6s3ld@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:32:23 -0800, You Know Who
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his
>>>>>>claim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH
>>>>>>PEOPLE
>>>>>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>>>>>
>>>>>LOL
>>>>>
>>>>>Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>>>>>claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>>>>>
>>>> This fool Riain is quite a character!
>>>
>>>It's the 2 of you who are showing yourselves to be complete idiots.
>>>The one of you is pretending that Nazis get to define Jews, & the other
>>>pretends that anyone is denying that they used their faulty reasoning to
>>>murder people.
>>>
>>>Susan
>>
>>
>> While you pretend to be an intellectual....
>>
>> You clearly have zero knowledge of history, or Judaism.
>>
>Hahahaha!
>yeah, right, whatever you say.
>G-d, what an idiot....
>
>Suzy

Only orthodox jews write "G-d". You don't need to write "G-d", you
thick Irish cunt. LOL

From:	The Revd
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 04:41:21 GMT

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:32:23 -0800, You Know Who

From:	3.14159 at consultant.com
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:40:21 -0600

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 04:41:21 GMT, renugade@anglicckan.org (The Revd )
wrote:

>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:32:23 -0800, You Know Who
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his claim.
>>>
>>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>>
>>LOL
>>
>>Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>>claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>>
>>I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>
>Which just goes to show how ridiculous it is to leave deciding who's a
>jew to the jews. If blacks could decide who's a black, how many would
>want to be black?

You're still here? I figured you'd be buggering a goat somewhere...

Poor goat.......

From:	The Revd
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 16:58:37 GMT

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:40:21 -0600, 3.14159@consultant.com wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 04:41:21 GMT, renugade@anglicckan.org (The Revd )
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:32:23 -0800, You Know Who
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his claim.
>>>>
>>>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>>>
>>>LOL
>>>
>>>Then why didn't all those people fling off those yellow stars and
>>>claim they weren't Jewish according to Jewish Law and Jewish People?
>>>
>>>I'm sure the Nazi's would have said, "Oh! Right! Off you go!"
>>
>>Which just goes to show how ridiculous it is to leave deciding who's a
>>jew to the jews. If blacks could decide who's a black, how many would
>>want to be black?
>
>You're still here? I figured you'd be buggering a goat somewhere...
>
>Poor goat.......

You're still here? I figured you'd be out inspiring 'anti-semitism'®
somewhere.

Oh wait.....you are. LOL

From:	3.14159 at consultant.com
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:38:50 -0600

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
wrote:

>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his claim.

LOL! Wow, I have seen ignorance in my time.....but you win, hands
down!

>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH PEOPLE
>and JEWISH LAW decides that.

LOL The nazis used *their* interpretation to murder tens of
thousands.

YOU need to acquire an education, instead of popping off. You look
even dumber that you are in a forum like this.

><3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
>news:2pc1t09oams55u3epk1kv85q1jasbvk1ls@4ax.com...
>| On 27 Dec 2004 16:58:22 -0800, "Deborah Sharavi"
>| wrote:
>|
>| >>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:48:41 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>| >>wrote:
>| >>>Hitler was NOT Jewish, moron!
>| >
>| >3.14159@consultant.com wrote:
>| >>There are valid suspicions that his paternal grandparent may be
>| >>Jewish.
>| >
>| >There are none, outside propaganda fabrigated and disseminated by
>| >antisemites.
>|
>| Nonsense. Toland states it in his bio of Hitler.
>|
>|
>| >Even if true, having a Jewish paternal grandfather doesn't
>| >make anyone Jewish.
>|
>|
>| Not according to the Nazis.
>|
>|

From:	flavia13 at verizon.net
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:32:04 GMT

<3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
news:lt23t0htadlgvn6d9c1nltjj59q8gn330h@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:41:32 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
> wrote:
>
>>Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his claim.
>
> LOL! Wow, I have seen ignorance in my time.....but you win, hands
> down!

You aren;t looking very far, then.
>
>>NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH PEOPLE
>>and JEWISH LAW decides that.
>
> LOL The nazis used *their* interpretation to murder tens of
> thousands.

No, REALLY??
And who was saying otherwise?
>
> YOU need to acquire an education, instead of popping off. You look
> even dumber that you are in a forum like this.
>
You might want to rephrase that, so you look less dumb yourself.

Susan

>
>
>
>
>
>
>><3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
>>news:2pc1t09oams55u3epk1kv85q1jasbvk1ls@4ax.com...
>>| On 27 Dec 2004 16:58:22 -0800, "Deborah Sharavi"
>>| wrote:
>>|
>>| >>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:48:41 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
>>| >>wrote:
>>| >>>Hitler was NOT Jewish, moron!
>>| >
>>| >3.14159@consultant.com wrote:
>>| >>There are valid suspicions that his paternal grandparent may be
>>| >>Jewish.
>>| >
>>| >There are none, outside propaganda fabrigated and disseminated by
>>| >antisemites.
>>|
>>| Nonsense. Toland states it in his bio of Hitler.
>>|
>>|
>>| >Even if true, having a Jewish paternal grandfather doesn't
>>| >make anyone Jewish.
>>|
>>|
>>| Not according to the Nazis.
>>|
>>|
>

From:	Norma
Subject:	Re: Armed Jews Week
Date:	Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:05:20 -0600

"Riain Y. Barton" wrote in message
news:yJ-dnbuuLeZ_JU3cRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> Then Toland is a liar and needs to provide the ACTUAL PROOF of his claim.
>
> NAZIS do not decide who is Jewish or who is not Jewish, the JEWISH PEOPLE
> and JEWISH LAW decides that.

That is true. But the Nazis did have a huge meeting where they decided who
was "Jewish" enough to be murdered, and who could stay alive. there is a
movie that is quite chilling called, "the Conspiracy"--a true story of the
meeting where that took place. It was to have been kept secret by
destroying all evidence, but someone stored it in their personal things and
it was found. It nearly made me sick to hear the horrible, chilling and
very concrete discussion of what went into their definitions. Norma

>
>
>
>
> <3.14159@consultant.com> wrote in message
> news:2pc1t09oams55u3epk1kv85q1jasbvk1ls@4ax.com...
> | On 27 Dec 2004 16:58:22 -0800, "Deborah Sharavi"
> | wrote:
> |
> | >>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:48:41 -0500, "Riain Y. Barton"
> | >>wrote:
> | >>>Hitler was NOT Jewish, moron!
> | >
> | >3.14159@consultant.com wrote:
> | >>There are valid suspicions that his paternal grandparent may be
> | >>Jewish.
> | >
> | >There are none, outside propaganda fabrigated and disseminated by
> | >antisemites.
> |
> | Nonsense. Toland states it in his bio of Hitler.
> |
> |
> | >Even if true, having a Jewish paternal grandfather doesn't
> | >make anyone Jewish.
> |
> |
> | Not according to the Nazis.
> |
> |
>