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 | | From: | Gactimus | | Subject: | The BBS days are long gone | | Date: | 4 Dec 2004 18:52:39 -0800 |
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 | The internet killed them.
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| | From: | Conner Destron | | Subject: | Re: The BBS days are long gone | | Date: | Sat, 4 Dec 2004 22:27:30 -0500 |
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| "Gactimus" wrote:
> The internet killed them.
I'd have to disagree.
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| | From: | Gactimus | | Subject: | Re: The BBS days are long gone | | Date: | 5 Dec 2004 04:39:16 -0800 |
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| "Conner Destron" wrote in message news:<31fdh2F38g92tU1@individual.net>...
> "Gactimus" wrote:
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>> The internet killed them.
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> I'd have to disagree.
Let's agree to disagree.
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| | From: | Conner Destron | | Subject: | Re: The BBS days are long gone | | Date: | Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:36:50 -0500 |
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| "Gactimus" wrote:
> "Conner Destron" wrote:
>> "Gactimus" wrote:
>>> The internet killed them.
>> I'd have to disagree.
> Let's agree to disagree.
I might be willing to do that to avoid having to engage in a debate over
something ridiculous, but I really can't believe that someone would want to
hurt the BBS scene this way. Perhaps that's because I am an active SysOp of
a BBS myself that has been around since 1992 and the popularity of the
internet actually increased my userbase dramatically from about 1996 through
1998, then I had to shut down my system for a few years due to personal
reasons, but when I brought it back up a little over a year ago as telnet
only, obviously my userbase has had to rebuild, but it has done so. Granted,
the rebuilding is slower as it seems these days more people are looking for
web browser interfaces and less people seem to know how to use a BBS, or
even what one is, but the community is still here and still growing.
-=Conner=-
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| | From: | Master George | | Subject: | Re: The BBS days are long gone | | Date: | Thu, 9 Dec 2004 22:13:46 -0500 |
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Hi.
You say you rebuilt your user base, where did you advertise? and how did
you attract new users? you are telnet only?
Alices.com
"Conner Destron" wrote in message
news:31h6agF3b0ancU1@individual.net...
> "Gactimus" wrote:
> > "Conner Destron" wrote:
> >> "Gactimus" wrote:
> >>> The internet killed them.
> >> I'd have to disagree.
> > Let's agree to disagree.
>
> I might be willing to do that to avoid having to engage in a debate over
> something ridiculous, but I really can't believe that someone would want
to
> hurt the BBS scene this way. Perhaps that's because I am an active SysOp
of
> a BBS myself that has been around since 1992 and the popularity of the
> internet actually increased my userbase dramatically from about 1996
through
> 1998, then I had to shut down my system for a few years due to personal
> reasons, but when I brought it back up a little over a year ago as telnet
> only, obviously my userbase has had to rebuild, but it has done so.
Granted,
> the rebuilding is slower as it seems these days more people are looking
for
> web browser interfaces and less people seem to know how to use a BBS, or
> even what one is, but the community is still here and still growing.
> -=Conner=-
>
>
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| | From: | Conner Destron | | Subject: | Re: The BBS days are long gone | | Date: | Fri, 10 Dec 2004 01:19:46 -0500 |
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| "Master George" wrote:
> Hi.
> You say you rebuilt your user base, where did you advertise? and how
> did
> you attract new users? you are telnet only?
>
> Alices.com
>
> "Conner Destron" wrote:
>> reasons, but when I brought it back up a little over a year ago as telnet
>> only, obviously my userbase has had to rebuild, but it has done so.
Hi Master George,
I've started to rebuild it, yes. So far, I've been rebuilding the old
fashioned way, word of mouth, mostly. Though I've also made sure that my
"signature" for newsgroups includes information about the BBS (see below)
and I've added the BBS to a list that is networked through the Dove-Net qwk
network. Suffice it to say, my user base is no where near what it was back
in 1998 when I shut down, but I've gotten back a pretty good starting base
going and it is slowly growing. I have considered posting an ad or two to
fidonet (via a friend who runs a fido hub), alt.bbs.ads and at BBSmates.com,
but have not done so yet because I'm not done with some of the major
overhaul style changes I'm making to the BBS. In it's last incarnation it
was strictly a pay bbs, catering exclusively to the adult only BDSM crowd,
but I'm reworking everything so that, when I'm done, it will be a family
oriented BBS with special areas set aside for adults only and certain areas
set aside for teens only and will offer extended access (time and special
extras) for paying customers but with general access to non-paying customers
too. And, yes, I'm telnet only because I've given up on the phone companies
completely as of about 2 years ago when I got rid of my home phone and
switched everything to just my cell phone.
-=Conner=-
--
Visit The Castle's Dungeon BBS at telnet://tcdbbs.zapto.org for some family
fun in a medieval setting, or come test your mettle in the Land of Legends,
our MUD, at telnet://tcdbbs.zapto.org:4000
For general info, visit http://www.tcdbbs.zapto.org
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| | From: | see.my.sig.4.addr at nowhere.com.invalid | | Subject: | Re: The BBS days are long gone | | Date: | Sun, 12 Dec 2004 18:49:22 -0800 |
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| On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 01:19:46 -0500, "Conner Destron"
spewed:
>"Master George" wrote:
>> Hi.
>> You say you rebuilt your user base, where did you advertise? and how
>> did
>> you attract new users? you are telnet only?
>>
>> Alices.com
>>
>> "Conner Destron" wrote:
>>> reasons, but when I brought it back up a little over a year ago as telnet
>>> only, obviously my userbase has had to rebuild, but it has done so.
>
>Hi Master George,
>I've started to rebuild it, yes. So far, I've been rebuilding the old
>fashioned way, word of mouth, mostly. Though I've also made sure that my
>"signature" for newsgroups includes information about the BBS (see below)
>and I've added the BBS to a list that is networked through the Dove-Net qwk
>network. Suffice it to say, my user base is no where near what it was back
>in 1998 when I shut down, but I've gotten back a pretty good starting base
>going and it is slowly growing. I have considered posting an ad or two to
>fidonet (via a friend who runs a fido hub), alt.bbs.ads and at BBSmates.com,
I can't even find how to access FIDO anymore!
It looks like there's some on newservers, but they don't appear to really
be when you check them.
>but have not done so yet because I'm not done with some of the major
>overhaul style changes I'm making to the BBS. In it's last incarnation it
>was strictly a pay bbs, catering exclusively to the adult only BDSM crowd,
>but I'm reworking everything so that, when I'm done, it will be a family
>oriented BBS with special areas set aside for adults only and certain areas
>set aside for teens only and will offer extended access (time and special
>extras) for paying customers but with general access to non-paying customers
>too. And, yes, I'm telnet only because I've given up on the phone companies
>completely as of about 2 years ago when I got rid of my home phone and
>switched everything to just my cell phone.
> -=Conner=-
Yup, I'd do that myself if I wasn't on dialup.
There's even a new thing that can use your cell as a hub for regular house
phones throughout the house. Kinda cool, but I think it's only for
Motorola phones so far.
So if there are any BBS's that actually have a dial in phone #, where are
they?! I don't find ANY local and haven't for years.
What telnet-only destroys, is the fact that your users used to be local,
so you could have meets, have a prayer of actually seeing the other users
in person, have similar local topics to talk about, etc.
There's still a LITTLE of that nowadays, but you have to friggin kill
yourself to find it, and it is a very VERY pale comparison to that of
yesteryear.
Meetup.com is trying, best I've found yet for that feature, but 90% of the
meets are cancelled because there's not enough people.
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| | From: | Conner Destron | | Subject: | Re: The BBS days are long gone | | Date: | Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:40:40 -0500 |
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| wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 01:19:46 -0500, "Conner Destron"
> spewed:
>>going and it is slowly growing. I have considered posting an ad or two to
>>fidonet (via a friend who runs a fido hub), alt.bbs.ads and at
>>BBSmates.com,
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> I can't even find how to access FIDO anymore!
> It looks like there's some on newservers, but they don't appear to really
> be when you check them.
Guess you've looked in the wrong places. My friend is the Sysop of a BBS, as
I am, but his BBS also happens to be a Fidonet hub. Try bbsmates.com or
google, there are still BBSs out there, maybe even local to you, if you look
for them.
>>too. And, yes, I'm telnet only because I've given up on the phone
>>companies
>>completely as of about 2 years ago when I got rid of my home phone and
>>switched everything to just my cell phone.
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> Yup, I'd do that myself if I wasn't on dialup.
So switch to cable or satellite.
> There's even a new thing that can use your cell as a hub for regular house
> phones throughout the house. Kinda cool, but I think it's only for
> Motorola phones so far.
Sounds expensive.
> So if there are any BBS's that actually have a dial in phone #, where are
> they?! I don't find ANY local and haven't for years.
Where have you looked?
> What telnet-only destroys, is the fact that your users used to be local,
> so you could have meets, have a prayer of actually seeing the other users
> in person, have similar local topics to talk about, etc.
I will grant that, but then I also used to be able to run a pay only BBS,
now I wouldn't complain about non-local users for a few reasons. First off,
they're usually not paying for anything anyway. Secondly, where I live, no
one is local regardless. (I'm way out in the country...) Thirdly, I don't
believe, and never did, in restricting my user based community to locals
only. Even when I ran an ISP along side of my BBS, I had plenty of users
from very different parts of the country and a few from outside of the
country and occassionally, even they managed to make it to one of our meets.
> There's still a LITTLE of that nowadays, but you have to friggin kill
> yourself to find it, and it is a very VERY pale comparison to that of
> yesteryear.
True enough, but I don't think the internet did that to us, our society has
drifted away from people wanting to be personal with each other, and not
just in the BBS arena.
> Meetup.com is trying, best I've found yet for that feature, but 90% of the
> meets are cancelled because there's not enough people.
I wouldn't know about that.
-=Conner=-
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Visit The Castle's Dungeon BBS at telnet://tcdbbs.zapto.org for some family
fun in a medieval setting, or come test your mettle in the Land of Legends,
our MUD, at telnet://tcdbbs.zapto.org:4000
For general info, visit http://www.tcdbbs.zapto.org
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| | From: | see.my.sig.4.addr at nowhere.com.invalid | | Subject: | Re: The BBS days are long gone | | Date: | Sun, 12 Dec 2004 18:49:21 -0800 |
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| On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 22:27:30 -0500, "Conner Destron"
spewed:
>"Gactimus" wrote:
>> The internet killed them.
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>I'd have to disagree.
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I stupid web site calling itself a bbs is NOT a bbs, it's a WEB SITE!
BBS implies local, stand alone.
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| | From: | Conner Destron | | Subject: | Re: The BBS days are long gone | | Date: | Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:31:43 -0500 |
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| wrote in message
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> On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 22:27:30 -0500, "Conner Destron"
> spewed:
>>"Gactimus" wrote:
>>> The internet killed them.
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>>I'd have to disagree.
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> I stupid web site calling itself a bbs is NOT a bbs, it's a WEB SITE!
> BBS implies local, stand alone.
Who said anything about a web site? My BBS is stand alone.
-=Conner=-
--
Visit The Castle's Dungeon BBS at telnet://tcdbbs.zapto.org for some family
fun in a medieval setting, or come test your mettle in the Land of Legends,
our MUD, at telnet://tcdbbs.zapto.org:4000
For general info, visit http://www.tcdbbs.zapto.org
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| | From: | see.my.sig.4.addr at nowhere.com.invalid | | Subject: | Re: The BBS days are long gone | | Date: | Sun, 12 Dec 2004 18:49:19 -0800 |
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| On 4 Dec 2004 18:52:39 -0800, gactimus@xrs.net (Gactimus) spewed:
>The internet killed them.
I totally agree :(
To be more accurate, the fucking web. I HATE the web!
I'd give it up in a sec. to get bbs's back.
It's great for shopping and searching, but ZERO community - even where
they try to.
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