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 | | From: | Scott Hazen Mueller | | Subject: | Comp.Newprod Introduction [last modified: Fri Aug 15 14:41:53 1997] | | Date: | Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:14:00 GMT |
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 | Welcome to comp.newprod. This message summarizes what comp.newprod is about, the guidelines for posting are explained in another message.
Contents:
- Introduction - Letters! We Get Letters - newprod Keywording - Archives and Back Issues - Mailing List Distribution - How to Submit a New Product Announcement
IF YOU WISH TO SUBMIT AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO comp.newprod: Please review these guidelines carefully. Submissions that do NOT conform to these guidelines will NOT be published.
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Subject: Introduction
comp.newprod publishes announcements for new computer-related products and services. We solicit product announcements that would interest large portions of the Usenet community.
comp.newprod is one of the oldest Usenet newsgroups. It was created in 1985 as `mod.newprod' by Ron Heiby. Ron ran the group until 1993, when the task was passed to Chip Rosenthal. Chip passed the front-end part of the job on to the current moderator, Scott Hazen Mueller, at the end of 1994, but has stayed on in the role of backup moderator, archivist and mailing list maintainer.
This newsgroup is unusual. Most people on Usenet disdain commercial postings. Here, we encourage them. In fact, that's the sole purpose of this newsgroup. How do we get away with it?!!? :-) That's discussed a bit later in this message.
Although this newsgroup is chartered for commercial product information, it is not a dumping ground for hype and advertisements. That's why the newsgroup is moderated, and that's why there are strict guidelines on what we will publish. Those guidelines are listed at the end of this message.
Since this newsgroup is moderated, people cannot post announcements to it directly. Instead, submissions must be sent to the moderator who will review them with respect to the newsgroup guidelines. Messages that meet the guidelines are posted by the moderator. We will review how to submit an announcement shortly.
This message is maintained by Scott Hazen Mueller. Your comments and suggestions are welcomed at newprod-request@zorch.sf-bay.org.
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Subject: Letters! We Get Letters
Our email addresses are:
administrivia, comments, etc. newprod-request@zorch.sf-bay.org announcement submissions newprod@zorch.sf-bay.org
We would like to hear your comments and suggestions about this newsgroup, the moderation policies, and these guidelines. The moderator tries to act on *your* behalf when reviewing submissions. Your feedback would be a great help in doing so. Drop us a line at the `newprod-request' address.
If you want to submit an announcement for posting, please send it to the `newprod' address. But before you do, be sure you carefully review the rest of this message!
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Subject: newprod Keywording
One of our services is to categorize all of the comp.newprod postings. We do so by inserting a `Keywords' header into every message. The format is:
Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...
We try to use a consistent set of keywords to help comp.newprod readers find messages of interest. If your newsreader supports `Kill' files, you can teach it to automatically pick out the things you want to see. People who use `rn' (or one of its variants) might be interested in the periodic posting by Leanne Phillips (phillips@syrinx.umd.edu) entitled `rn KILL file FAQ'. You'll find it in news.software.readers and on anon FTP site rtfm.mit.edu.
There is another reason why we think keywords are important. They help us sort and file away announcements in our voluminous archives. How, you might wonder, can you access those archives? I'm awful glad you asked...
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Subject: Archives and Back Issues
The official comp.newprod archives are made possible by the kind folks at the Texas Metronet. You may reach the Metronet in any of the following ways:
http://www.metronet.com (access through the World Wide Web) gopher://gopher.metronet.com (Gopher access) ftp://ftp.metronet.com (anonymous FTP access)
Any of these will put you at the base of the Metronet archives. From there, take the selection to enter `The comp.newprod Archives'.
The archives are organized to make it easy to find the information you want. You can view the messages sorted by posting month or product vendor. You can even do full text searches to find the articles that mention certain topics.
Our thanks to the people at the Texas Metronet (info@metronet.com) for providing the disk space and bandwidth for these archives. Please note that the maintenance of these archives is the responsibility of the comp.newprod moderator. Please contact newprod-request@zorch.sf-bay.org if you have any questions, problems, or suggestions,
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Subject: Mailing List Distribution
The comp.newprod announcements are distributed in an email digest as a courtesy to people who cannot receive Usenet. The contents of the mailing list are the same as the comp.newprod newsgroup. We prefer that you read the announcements through Usenet, if possible. To subscribe to the digest, contact newprod-digest-request@chinacat.unicom.com.
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Subject: How to Submit a New Product Announcement
Step one -- read the guidelines! They are given in the next companion posting, "Comp.Newprod submission guidelines". Messages that violate them WILL be returned, unposted.
To avoid excess delays (and frustration), it is important that you follow the guidelines. Many first-time submitters fail to play close heed to the guidelines. As a result, many first-time submitters end up having their submission returned, unpublished. What a bummer! Most of the problems could have been avoided if the person just read the submission guidelines.
We urge you to spend some time reading comp.newprod to get a feel for the kind of things that are published here, and the format we expect.
Spend some time reading Usenet! You won't get flamed to a crisp if your message violates netiquette (as you would in some other groups). It will, however, be rejected.
Check out the introductory documents in news.announce.newusers. You might find the following messages useful:
Hints on writing style for Usenet Rules for posting to Usenet A Primer on How to Work With the Usenet Community
Finally, if you know somebody who is an old-hand around these parts, have him or her review your announcement before you submit it. They can not only help ensure the submission meets the newsgroup guidelines, but also help you make the announcement more effective. If you don't have access to any net.experts for your questions, feel free to contact newprod-request@zorch.sf-bay.org.
OK, so you've waded through the copious guidelines, carefully crafted your announcement, had a net.expert proofread it, and you are ready to tell the world. Now, send your announcement to the comp.newprod moderator for review. If you have relatively modern news software, you can simply post your announcement to the group. Your system will notice that the newsgroup is moderated, and forward the message to the moderator for review. If your news system is ancient, or you have problems posting as just described, you can email your announcement to newprod@zorch.sf-bay.org.
Regardless of the submission method you select, your submission will be confirmed by an automatically acknowledgement or an automatic rejection notice. If you make a submission and do not get an automatic message back within a day or two, it might have gotten lost in transit. It also might mean that your news software is broken and mangling headers -- so the automatic reply won't work.
If you do get the acknowledgement, it indicates that the message has been entered into the comp.newprod queue. It generally takes a week or two to push an item through the queue. If your message meets the guidelines, the moderator will post it to the world. The moderator will try to notify you once the message has been posted. You will be told that the message has been accepted and posted -- or the message was not accepted and why.
If you get an automatic rejection message, follow the instructions in the message and resubmit the article. You should then get the automatic acknowledgement.
Although we try to let you know when your submission arrives here and when it has been posted or rejected, we can NOT accept responsiblity for mail or news software that mangles headers. Our replies sometimes bounce due to broken headers, and there isn't much we can do about that.
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