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 | | From: | Arthur Entlich | | Subject: | Re: Damn HP!!! | | Date: | Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:58:58 GMT |
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 | Before you burst a blood vessel (which might solve the problem of the
magenta ink ;-)) I think HP may have a policy of replacing outdated
full or nearly full cartridges.
I know someone here will have your answer, if you are patient. I would
not remove the battery, especially f it is precarious, until at least
hearing from someone who knows HP's policy.
Art
Orak Listalavostok wrote:
>>Just ran across this article
>>
>
> http://www.alotofthings.com/inkjetinformation/TheNewInkJetMarketplace.htm
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>>some HP (and Lexmark) cartridges have the expiration dates burned in
>>at the time of manufacture, not the time of installation.
>
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> I think there might be two dates 'burned' into the HP 14 c5010a ink
> cartridges.
> 1. FINAL EXPIRATION DATE (dies 4.5 years from date of manufacture)
> 2. IN-SERVICE DATE (dies 2.5 years from date of initial installation)
> The "actual" HP14 ink cartrdige expiry date is the first of these two!
>
> I think the 4.5 year expiry date is burned in at manufacture time;
> I think the 30-month expiry date is burned in when you install it.
>
> I don't think HP burns in a serial number;
> I think it burns the actual date!
>
> Witness these facts:
> Today, Christmas Eve, my color cartridge said it was out of ink.
> When I put a second cartridge in, it said the SAME THING even though
> the cartridge was full of OEM ink (it was only used ONCE on the day I
> bought it). Same with a third OEM full HP 14 color ink cartridge.
>
> I infer that the 30-months contiguous service is burned into the smart
> chip at the time of install.
>
> Interesting, since all three cartridges were put in service on the same
> day in the same machine, and all three are saying "out of ink" even
> though only one can possibly be out of ink, I suspect the date burned
> into each cartridge is the SAME DATE (and not some unique serial
> number).
>
> That is, I'm surmising, the HP D145 printer is seeing the second and
> third ink cartridges EXACTLY the same as the first (it appears). If I
> had only put them in service on a DIFFERENT DATE, then perhaps it would
> recognize the second and third cartridges as different.
>
> In summary, I think the HP D145 printer is assuming the three ink
> cartridges are one and the same because all the HP ojd145 "sees" is
> the same date burned into the smart chip on all three (which were put
> in initial service in the same machine on that same date months ago).
> Does this make any sense?
>
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| | From: | behappy | | Subject: | Re: Damn HP!!! | | Date: | Sat, 25 Dec 2004 23:33:27 -0800 |
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| I also heard there is a device that can reset the smartchip cartridge. This
can probably be found through the ink cartridge refilling kit vendors.
"Arthur Entlich" wrote in message
news:Sefzd.21302$KO5.5822@clgrps13...
> Before you burst a blood vessel (which might solve the problem of the
> magenta ink ;-)) I think HP may have a policy of replacing outdated full
> or nearly full cartridges.
>
> I know someone here will have your answer, if you are patient. I would
> not remove the battery, especially f it is precarious, until at least
> hearing from someone who knows HP's policy.
>
> Art
>
>
>
> Orak Listalavostok wrote:
>
>>>Just ran across this article
>>>
>>
>> http://www.alotofthings.com/inkjetinformation/TheNewInkJetMarketplace.htm
>>
>>>some HP (and Lexmark) cartridges have the expiration dates burned in
>>>at the time of manufacture, not the time of installation.
>>
>>
>> I think there might be two dates 'burned' into the HP 14 c5010a ink
>> cartridges.
>> 1. FINAL EXPIRATION DATE (dies 4.5 years from date of manufacture)
>> 2. IN-SERVICE DATE (dies 2.5 years from date of initial installation)
>> The "actual" HP14 ink cartrdige expiry date is the first of these two!
>>
>> I think the 4.5 year expiry date is burned in at manufacture time;
>> I think the 30-month expiry date is burned in when you install it.
>>
>> I don't think HP burns in a serial number;
>> I think it burns the actual date!
>>
>> Witness these facts:
>> Today, Christmas Eve, my color cartridge said it was out of ink.
>> When I put a second cartridge in, it said the SAME THING even though
>> the cartridge was full of OEM ink (it was only used ONCE on the day I
>> bought it). Same with a third OEM full HP 14 color ink cartridge.
>>
>> I infer that the 30-months contiguous service is burned into the smart
>> chip at the time of install.
>>
>> Interesting, since all three cartridges were put in service on the same
>> day in the same machine, and all three are saying "out of ink" even
>> though only one can possibly be out of ink, I suspect the date burned
>> into each cartridge is the SAME DATE (and not some unique serial
>> number).
>>
>> That is, I'm surmising, the HP D145 printer is seeing the second and
>> third ink cartridges EXACTLY the same as the first (it appears). If I
>> had only put them in service on a DIFFERENT DATE, then perhaps it would
>> recognize the second and third cartridges as different.
>>
>> In summary, I think the HP D145 printer is assuming the three ink
>> cartridges are one and the same because all the HP ojd145 "sees" is
>> the same date burned into the smart chip on all three (which were put
>> in initial service in the same machine on that same date months ago).
>> Does this make any sense?
>>
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