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 | | From: | |-|erc | | Subject: | How many flips of DIAG are on the infintie list of infinite con flippers? | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:05:28 +1000 |
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 | Infinite people each flip coins, some infinite times each, can you always come
up with a new sequence of Heads and Tails?
AntiDiag =
|<------ How Many flips ? ------->|
Infinite Flippers List
1
2
3
4
5
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Its not a hard question, remember John Savard's comment,
"a random real number will be on it to an infinite number of digits"
Herc
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Have you now or have you ever been a member of the antidisestablishmentarianism party?
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| | From: | bryant_j_j at yahoo.com | | Subject: | Nuisance by |-|erc who has flipped out: Re: How many flips of DIAG are on the infintie list of infinite con flippers? | | Date: | 18 Jan 2005 23:10:42 -0800 |
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|-|erc wrote:
> Infinite people each flip coins, some infinite times each, can you
always come
> up with a new sequence of Heads and Tails?
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> AntiDiag =
> |<------ How Many flips ? ------->|
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> Infinite Flippers List
> 1
> 2
> 3
> 4
> 5
> ...
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> Its not a hard question, remember John Savard's comment,
> "a random real number will be on it to an infinite number of
digits"
>
who the hell cares? Georgey C has answered your question, so keep your
word and go away you twit. far away.
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| | From: | |-|erc | | Subject: | Re: How many flips of DIAG are on the infintie list of infinite con flippers? | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:18:10 +1000 |
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| I thought someone had an answer, it's just bryant.
wrote in message >
> |-|erc wrote:
> > Infinite people each flip coins, some infinite times each, can you
> always come
> > up with a new sequence of Heads and Tails?
> >
> >
> > AntiDiag =
> > |<------ How Many flips ? ------->|
> >
> >
> > Infinite Flippers List
> > 1
> > 2
> > 3
> > 4
> > 5
> > ...
> >
> >
> > Its not a hard question, remember John Savard's comment,
> > "a random real number will be on it to an infinite number of
> digits"
> >
>
> who the hell cares? Georgey C has answered your question, so keep your
> word and go away you twit. far away.
>
He has not, that was just the prototype question that HOW MANY can
result in oo. He got that right but then you started ruining the thread again.
If you can't answer the question atleast give it a day so others can try
before you wreck the thread. Its just common courtesy.
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"George Cox" wrote
> |-|erc wrote:
> >
> > How many numbers are in this sequence?
> > <1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, ....>
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> aleph_0
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> > How many numbers are in this sequence? (duplicates allowed)
> > <3, 1, 4, 1, 5, 9, 2, 6, 5, 3, 6, ....>
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> aleph_0
Right
How many flips of this random sequence
make an appearance after all their predecessors in (members of) this list?
UTM(row, col) mod 2
1 <0101101000..>
2 <1110101000..>
3 <0000000000..>
4 <1111100000..>
...
You can use any alphabet substitution you deem appropriate.
Herc
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| | From: | Termite of Tempation | | Subject: | Re: How many flips of DIAG are on the infintie list of infinite con flippers? | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:36:11 GMT |
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"|-|erc" wrote in message news:356bkcF4gianrU1@individual.net...
> Infinite people each flip coins, some infinite times each, can you always
come
> up with a new sequence of Heads and Tails?
I can't understand this question; it needs to be phrased more precisely.
If aleph0 people flip a coin aleph0 times each, then there will be sequences
that were not flipped. This is certain.
If c (=continuum) people flip a coin aleph0 times each, then it is possible
that every sequence is flipped.
> AntiDiag =
> |<------ How Many flips ? ------->|
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>
> Infinite Flippers List
> 1
> 2
> 3
> 4
> 5
> ...
>
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> Its not a hard question, remember John Savard's comment,
> "a random real number will be on it to an infinite number of digits"
>
> Herc
> --
> Have you now or have you ever been a member of the
antidisestablishmentarianism party?
>
>
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| | From: | |-|erc | | Subject: | Re: How many flips of DIAG are on the infintie list of infinite con flippers? | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:15:06 +1000 |
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| "Termite of Tempation" wrote in
>
> "|-|erc" wrote in message news:356bkcF4gianrU1@individual.net...
> > Infinite people each flip coins, some infinite times each, can you always
> come
> > up with a new sequence of Heads and Tails?
>
> I can't understand this question; it needs to be phrased more precisely.
>
> If aleph0 people flip a coin aleph0 times each, then there will be sequences
> that were not flipped. This is certain.
>
> If c (=continuum) people flip a coin aleph0 times each, then it is possible
> that every sequence is flipped.
>
> > AntiDiag =
> > |<------ How Many flips ? ------->|
> >
> >
> > Infinite Flippers List
> > 1
> > 2
> > 3
> > 4
> > 5
> > ...
> >
> >
> > Its not a hard question, remember John Savard's comment,
> > "a random real number will be on it to an infinite number of digits"
> >
> > Herc
> > --
> > Have you now or have you ever been a member of the
> antidisestablishmentarianism party?
> >
> >
Re: How many flips of DIAG are on the infintie list of infinite con flippers?
Herc
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| | From: | Will Twentyman | | Subject: | Re: How many flips of DIAG are on the infintie list of infinite con | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:35:35 -0500 |
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| |-|erc wrote:
> Infinite people each flip coins, some infinite times each, can you always come
> up with a new sequence of Heads and Tails?
Maybe. Are there countably or uncountably infinite people? Yes in the
first case, no in the second. (I'm assuming countably infinite flips)
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> AntiDiag =
> |<------ How Many flips ? ------->|
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> Infinite Flippers List
> 1
> 2
> 3
> 4
> 5
> ...
This suggests countably infinite flippers, and thus an answer of "yes".
> Its not a hard question, remember John Savard's comment,
> "a random real number will be on it to an infinite number of digits"
I don't really care what John Savard's comment is.
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Will Twentyman
email: wtwentyman at copper dot net
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