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Zda se, ze americky ISP Verizon cenzuruje e-maily svych zakazniku a jeste lze
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 | | From: | totojepast | | Subject: | Zda se, ze americky ISP Verizon cenzuruje e-maily svych zakazniku a jeste lze | | Date: | Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:18:39 +0100 |
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 | Prekvapily me zpravy v americkych a britskych mediich o tom, ze americky ISP Verizonu blokuje veskery prichozi e-mailovy provoz z Evropy. Technicka podpora Verizonu toto popirala zakaznikum, tiskovy mluvci Verizonu se snazil mystifikovat americke i britske novinare, britsky zpravodajsky server Theregister.co.uk zjistil, ze nemuze dorucit e-mailovy newsletter svym americkym ctenarum. Problem trva jiz od prosince, byl jsem proto zvedav, zda se jiz problem podarilo zvladnout. Snazil jsem se Verizonu poslat dotaz e-mailem ze serveru, ktery lezi v Ceske republice a nikdy nebyl zarazen na zadne cerne listine rozesilatelu spamu.
Dotaz, zda je jeste stale blokovan e-mailovy veskery provoz z Evropy, jsem adresoval technicke podpore a bezpecnostnimu oddeleni Verizonu na kontaktni e-mailove adresy, ktere samotny Verizon publikoval. K memu velkemu prekvapeni mi postovni server odpovedel takto:
"Your message could not be delivered for 4.0 hours. It will be retried until it is 5.0 days old. (...) : connect to relay.verizon.net[206.46.170.12]: Connection timed out
: connect to relay.verizon.net[206.46.170.12]: Connection timed out"
Cenzura e-mailove komunikace ze strany Verizonu tedy zrejme pokracuje. Legracni je, ze cenzurovane pripojeni k Internetu je na strance http://www22.verizon.com/foryourhome/sas/ProdDesc.asp?ID=10035&NPA=&NXX=&CategoryID=301&state=NY&TrackID=VFD nabizeno pod nazvem "Verizon Freedom Unlimited with DSL" :-)
Chtel bych se zeptat zdejsich diskutujicich, zda jejich e-maily odeslane z Evropy na adresy u Verizonu nakonec dorazily na misto urceni, nebo ne.
Zdravi Petr
http://verizonpathetic.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000635.html Blocked Email from Europe posted 12-28-2004 08:23 PM Does anyone know anything about Verizon's new policy of blocking most email to its customers from European ISPs? Apparently this has something to do with spam coming from Europe so they just decided to block mail from all these countries - without telling anyone about it!
I am involved in projects where I receive emails from people in Europe every day & this has come to a complete halt since the mail is not getting through.
I spoke to Verizon tech support MANY times over the past 2 weeks & none of them even admitted this had happened. They kept telling me there was no problem with Verizon but that it was the European mail servers that were bouncing the mail. This was completely untrue but if you call them right now they'll still say the same thing.
How is it possible that Verizon can just suddenly decide to block all email from a huge part of the world & then deny it's happening? Hmmm maybe this should have been in the 'pain' section.
posted 01-02-2005 01:24 AM Absolutely right: I face same issue. VERIZON proposes to include e-mail addresses in an "authorized" list. This is perfectly unacceptable. If nothing changes, I'll have to switch again but can't afford these methods.
http://spam.gunters.org/archive/2005/01/11/say-it-isnt-so-verizon-blacklists-europe 1/11/2005 Say It Isn't So. Verizon Blacklists Europe! Filed under: Imported - admin @ 8:05 am
Say It Isn\'t So. Verizon Blacklists Europe!
Still waiting to seal the deal with that prospect in Great Britain? If your email provider is Verizon, it may be a very long wait.
You see, Verizon seems to have found a new love: blocklisting. And Europe seems to be among those things Verizon loves to block. or at least, large swaths of European IP ranges. Customers, of course, are livid. Some claim the service isn't even good enough for home use.
Verizon reps say the whole matter will be resolved in a few days. As the problem has already dragged on since December 22, customers may be forgiven for skepticism.
Blacklists are just one of the many tools in a Secure Email Boundary (SEB) toolkit. Over reliance results in Sudden Customer Death (SCD).
Verizon's about to suffer a case of SCD.
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 | | From: | Jack Stone | | Subject: | Re: Zda se, ze americky ISP Verizon cenzuruje e-maily svych zakazniku a jeste lze | | Date: | Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:49:06 +0100 |
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 | Blokovani evropskych e-mailu Verizonem potvrzuji. Dokonce jsem znamym (do USA, pouzivaji Verizon jako ISP) volal telefonicky jestli si nahodou nezmenili e-mail adresu. Nezmenili. E-mail se presto po nekolikerem opetovnem odeslani vzdy vratil jako undeliverable, tj, podobne hlasky jako dolejc.
"totojepast" wrote in message news:csbqb1$pks$1@server4.gts.cz... > Prekvapily me zpravy v americkych a britskych mediich o tom, ze americky ISP > Verizonu blokuje veskery prichozi e-mailovy provoz z Evropy. Technicka > podpora Verizonu toto popirala zakaznikum, tiskovy mluvci Verizonu se snazil > mystifikovat americke i britske novinare, britsky zpravodajsky server > Theregister.co.uk zjistil, ze nemuze dorucit e-mailovy newsletter svym > americkym ctenarum. Problem trva jiz od prosince, byl jsem proto zvedav, zda > se jiz problem podarilo zvladnout. Snazil jsem se Verizonu poslat dotaz > e-mailem ze serveru, ktery lezi v Ceske republice a nikdy nebyl zarazen na > zadne cerne listine rozesilatelu spamu. > > Dotaz, zda je jeste stale blokovan e-mailovy veskery provoz z Evropy, jsem > adresoval technicke podpore a bezpecnostnimu oddeleni Verizonu na kontaktni > e-mailove adresy, ktere samotny Verizon publikoval. K memu velkemu > prekvapeni mi postovni server odpovedel takto: > > "Your message could not be delivered for 4.0 hours. > It will be retried until it is 5.0 days old. > (...) > : connect to relay.verizon.net[206.46.170.12]: > Connection > timed out > > : connect to relay.verizon.net[206.46.170.12]: > Connection > timed out" > > Cenzura e-mailove komunikace ze strany Verizonu tedy zrejme pokracuje. > Legracni je, ze cenzurovane pripojeni k Internetu je na strance > http://www22.verizon.com/foryourhome/sas/ProdDesc.asp?ID=10035&NPA=&NXX=&Cat egoryID=301&state=NY&TrackID=VFD > nabizeno pod nazvem "Verizon Freedom Unlimited with DSL" :-) > > Chtel bych se zeptat zdejsich diskutujicich, zda jejich e-maily odeslane z > Evropy na adresy u Verizonu nakonec dorazily na misto urceni, nebo ne. > > Zdravi Petr > > > > http://verizonpathetic.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000635.html > Blocked Email from Europe > posted 12-28-2004 08:23 PM > Does anyone know anything about Verizon's new policy of blocking most email > to its customers from European ISPs? Apparently this has something to do > with spam coming from Europe so they just decided to block mail from all > these countries - without telling anyone about it! > > I am involved in projects where I receive emails from people in Europe every > day & this has come to a complete halt since the mail is not getting > through. > > I spoke to Verizon tech support MANY times over the past 2 weeks & none of > them even admitted this had happened. They kept telling me there was no > problem with Verizon but that it was the European mail servers that were > bouncing the mail. This was completely untrue but if you call them right now > they'll still say the same thing. > > How is it possible that Verizon can just suddenly decide to block all email > from a huge part of the world & then deny it's happening? Hmmm maybe this > should have been in the 'pain' section. > > posted 01-02-2005 01:24 AM > Absolutely right: I face same issue. VERIZON proposes to include e-mail > addresses in an "authorized" list. This is perfectly unacceptable. If > nothing changes, I'll have to switch again but can't afford these methods. > > > http://spam.gunters.org/archive/2005/01/11/say-it-isnt-so-verizon-blacklists -europe > 1/11/2005 > Say It Isn't So. Verizon Blacklists Europe! > Filed under: Imported - admin @ 8:05 am > > Say It Isn\'t So. Verizon Blacklists Europe! > > Still waiting to seal the deal with that prospect in Great Britain? If > your email provider is Verizon, it may be a very long wait. > > You see, Verizon seems to have found a new love: blocklisting. And > Europe seems to be among those things Verizon loves to block. or at least,
> large swaths of European IP ranges. Customers, of course, are livid. Some > claim the service isn't even good enough for home use. > > Verizon reps say the whole matter will be resolved in a few days. As the > problem has already dragged on since December 22, customers may be forgiven > for skepticism. > > Blacklists are just one of the many tools in a Secure Email Boundary > (SEB) toolkit. Over reliance results in Sudden Customer Death (SCD). > > Verizon's about to suffer a case of SCD. > > > >
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 | | From: | totojepast | | Subject: | Re: Zda se, ze americky ISP Verizon cenzuruje e-maily svych zakazniku a jeste lze | | Date: | Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:41:27 +0100 |
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 | Mohli byste, prosim, venovat pozornost puodnimu prispevku? Ted vidim v diskusnim threadu jenom same politicke invektivy
"totojepast" píše v diskusním příspěvku news:csbqb1$pks$1@server4.gts.cz... Prekvapily me zpravy v americkych a britskych mediich o tom, ze americky ISP Verizonu blokuje veskery prichozi e-mailovy provoz z Evropy. Technicka podpora Verizonu toto popirala zakaznikum, tiskovy mluvci Verizonu se snazil mystifikovat americke i britske novinare, britsky zpravodajsky server Theregister.co.uk zjistil, ze nemuze dorucit e-mailovy newsletter svym americkym ctenarum. Problem trva jiz od prosince, byl jsem proto zvedav, zda se jiz problem podarilo zvladnout. Snazil jsem se Verizonu poslat dotaz e-mailem ze serveru, ktery lezi v Ceske republice a nikdy nebyl zarazen na zadne cerne listine rozesilatelu spamu.
Dotaz, zda je jeste stale blokovan e-mailovy veskery provoz z Evropy, jsem adresoval technicke podpore a bezpecnostnimu oddeleni Verizonu na kontaktni e-mailove adresy, ktere samotny Verizon publikoval. K memu velkemu prekvapeni mi postovni server odpovedel takto:
"Your message could not be delivered for 4.0 hours. It will be retried until it is 5.0 days old. (...) : connect to relay.verizon.net[206.46.170.12]: Connection timed out
: connect to relay.verizon.net[206.46.170.12]: Connection timed out"
Cenzura e-mailove komunikace ze strany Verizonu tedy zrejme pokracuje. Legracni je, ze cenzurovane pripojeni k Internetu je na strance http://www22.verizon.com/foryourhome/sas/ProdDesc.asp?ID=10035&NPA=&NXX=&CategoryID=301&state=NY&TrackID=VFD nabizeno pod nazvem "Verizon Freedom Unlimited with DSL" :-)
Chtel bych se zeptat zdejsich diskutujicich, zda jejich e-maily odeslane z Evropy na adresy u Verizonu nakonec dorazily na misto urceni, nebo ne.
Zdravi Petr
http://verizonpathetic.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000635.html Blocked Email from Europe posted 12-28-2004 08:23 PM Does anyone know anything about Verizon's new policy of blocking most email to its customers from European ISPs? Apparently this has something to do with spam coming from Europe so they just decided to block mail from all these countries - without telling anyone about it!
I am involved in projects where I receive emails from people in Europe every day & this has come to a complete halt since the mail is not getting through.
I spoke to Verizon tech support MANY times over the past 2 weeks & none of them even admitted this had happened. They kept telling me there was no problem with Verizon but that it was the European mail servers that were bouncing the mail. This was completely untrue but if you call them right now they'll still say the same thing.
How is it possible that Verizon can just suddenly decide to block all email from a huge part of the world & then deny it's happening? Hmmm maybe this should have been in the 'pain' section.
posted 01-02-2005 01:24 AM Absolutely right: I face same issue. VERIZON proposes to include e-mail addresses in an "authorized" list. This is perfectly unacceptable. If nothing changes, I'll have to switch again but can't afford these methods.
http://spam.gunters.org/archive/2005/01/11/say-it-isnt-so-verizon-blacklists-europe 1/11/2005 Say It Isn't So. Verizon Blacklists Europe! Filed under: Imported - admin @ 8:05 am
Say It Isn\'t So. Verizon Blacklists Europe!
Still waiting to seal the deal with that prospect in Great Britain? If your email provider is Verizon, it may be a very long wait.
You see, Verizon seems to have found a new love: blocklisting. And Europe seems to be among those things Verizon loves to block. or at least, large swaths of European IP ranges. Customers, of course, are livid. Some claim the service isn't even good enough for home use.
Verizon reps say the whole matter will be resolved in a few days. As the problem has already dragged on since December 22, customers may be forgiven for skepticism.
Blacklists are just one of the many tools in a Secure Email Boundary (SEB) toolkit. Over reliance results in Sudden Customer Death (SCD).
Verizon's about to suffer a case of SCD.
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 | | From: | FEEB | | Subject: | Re: Zda se, ze americky ISP Verizon cenzuruje e-maily svych zakazniku a jeste lze | | Date: | Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:48:29 -0500 (EST) |
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 | On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:18:39 +0100, totojepast wrote:
>Prekvapily me zpravy v americkych a britskych mediich o tom, ze americky ISP >Verizonu blokuje veskery prichozi e-mailovy provoz z Evropy.
Postujte zde _kompletni_ hlavicku zpravy, ktera se vam vratila z Verizon.
Frank Bures,
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 | | From: | Petr Svoboda | | Subject: | Re: Zda se, ze americky ISP Verizon cenzuruje e-maily svych zakazniku | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:58:29 +0100 |
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 | http://www.lupa.cz/clanek.php3?show=3907
FEEB napsal(a): > On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:18:39 +0100, totojepast wrote: > > >>Prekvapily me zpravy v americkych a britskych mediich o tom, ze americky > > ISP > >>Verizonu blokuje veskery prichozi e-mailovy provoz z Evropy. > > > Postujte zde _kompletni_ hlavicku zpravy, ktera se vam vratila z Verizon. > > > > Frank Bures, > >
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 | | From: | totojepast | | Subject: | Re: Zda se, ze americky ISP Verizon cenzuruje e-maily svych zakazniku a jeste lze | | Date: | 23 Jan 2005 15:00:57 -0800 |
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 | Zda se, ze jde do tuheho:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/21/verizon_class_action/ Verizon faces lawsuit over email blocking By John Leyden (john.leyden at theregister.co.uk) Published Friday 21st January 2005 23:10 GMT
Aggrieved Verizon customers are invited to join a class action that seeks damages arising from the US ISP's enthusiastic email filtering policies. Philadelphia law firm Kohn, Swift & Graf, P.C. filed suit this week against Verizon on behalf of a DSL subscriber in a civil case that seeks class action status.
totojepast wrote: > Prekvapily me zpravy v americkych a britskych mediich o tom, ze americky ISP > Verizonu blokuje veskery prichozi e-mailovy provoz z Evropy. Technicka > podpora Verizonu toto popirala zakaznikum, tiskovy mluvci Verizonu se snazil > mystifikovat americke i britske novinare, britsky zpravodajsky server > Theregister.co.uk zjistil, ze nemuze dorucit e-mailovy newsletter svym > americkym ctenarum. Problem trva jiz od prosince, byl jsem proto zvedav, zda > se jiz problem podarilo zvladnout. Snazil jsem se Verizonu poslat dotaz > e-mailem ze serveru, ktery lezi v Ceske republice a nikdy nebyl zarazen na > zadne cerne listine rozesilatelu spamu. > > Dotaz, zda je jeste stale blokovan e-mailovy veskery provoz z Evropy, jsem > adresoval technicke podpore a bezpecnostnimu oddeleni Verizonu na kontaktni > e-mailove adresy, ktere samotny Verizon publikoval. K memu velkemu > prekvapeni mi postovni server odpovedel takto: > > "Your message could not be delivered for 4.0 hours. > It will be retried until it is 5.0 days old. > (...) > : connect to relay.verizon.net[206.46.170.12]: > Connection > timed out > > : connect to relay.verizon.net[206.46.170.12]: > Connection > timed out" > > Cenzura e-mailove komunikace ze strany Verizonu tedy zrejme pokracuje. > Legracni je, ze cenzurovane pripojeni k Internetu je na strance > http://www22.verizon.com/foryourhome/sas/ProdDesc.asp?ID=10035&NPA=&NXX=&CategoryID=301&state=NY&TrackID=VFD > nabizeno pod nazvem "Verizon Freedom Unlimited with DSL" :-) > > Chtel bych se zeptat zdejsich diskutujicich, zda jejich e-maily odeslane z > Evropy na adresy u Verizonu nakonec dorazily na misto urceni, nebo ne. > > Zdravi Petr > > > > http://verizonpathetic.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000635.html > Blocked Email from Europe > posted 12-28-2004 08:23 PM > Does anyone know anything about Verizon's new policy of blocking most email > to its customers from European ISPs? Apparently this has something to do > with spam coming from Europe so they just decided to block mail from all > these countries - without telling anyone about it! > > I am involved in projects where I receive emails from people in Europe every > day & this has come to a complete halt since the mail is not getting > through. > > I spoke to Verizon tech support MANY times over the past 2 weeks & none of > them even admitted this had happened. They kept telling me there was no > problem with Verizon but that it was the European mail servers that were > bouncing the mail. This was completely untrue but if you call them right now > they'll still say the same thing. > > How is it possible that Verizon can just suddenly decide to block all email > from a huge part of the world & then deny it's happening? Hmmm maybe this > should have been in the 'pain' section. > > posted 01-02-2005 01:24 AM > Absolutely right: I face same issue. VERIZON proposes to include e-mail > addresses in an "authorized" list. This is perfectly unacceptable. If > nothing changes, I'll have to switch again but can't afford these methods. > > > http://spam.gunters.org/archive/2005/01/11/say-it-isnt-so-verizon-blacklists-europe > 1/11/2005 > Say It Isn't So. Verizon Blacklists Europe! > Filed under: Imported - admin @ 8:05 am > > Say It Isn\'t So. Verizon Blacklists Europe! > > Still waiting to seal the deal with that prospect in Great Britain? If > your email provider is Verizon, it may be a very long wait. > > You see, Verizon seems to have found a new love: blocklisting. And > Europe seems to be among those things Verizon loves to block. or at least, > large swaths of European IP ranges. Customers, of course, are livid. Some > claim the service isn't even good enough for home use. > > Verizon reps say the whole matter will be resolved in a few days. As the > problem has already dragged on since December 22, customers may be forgiven > for skepticism. > > Blacklists are just one of the many tools in a Secure Email Boundary > (SEB) toolkit. Over reliance results in Sudden Customer Death (SCD). > > Verizon's about to suffer a case of SCD.
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 | | From: | Frank | | Subject: | Re: Zda se, ze americky ISP Verizon cenzuruje e-maily svych zakazniku a jeste lze | | Date: | Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:54:08 GMT |
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 | O tom jse premyslel uz hodne drive. Dokonce vsechno co je tady a na jinych NGs je urcite cenzurovane. Proto radeji pisu cesky - za prekladatele se zrejme plati vic a taky je dobre prihodit par hrubek. Tim se to vyc komplikuje ( pro ty kteri jen puzivaji slovnik) a clovek taky zjysti, jestli to vubec tady nekdo cte.... F PS Clovek nikdy nevi za co ho vyhodi z armady. Treba za to, ze ti ukazou kolik pracovniho casu stravi jeden frajtr psanim hlubokych uvah. Yukone, tebe do toho nepocitam protoze tvoje prispevki jsou vseobecne unikatni...
"totojepast" wrote in message news:csbqb1$pks$1@server4.gts.cz... > Prekvapily me zpravy v americkych a britskych mediich o tom, ze americky > ISP > Verizonu blokuje veskery prichozi e-mailovy provoz z Evropy. Technicka > podpora Verizonu toto popirala zakaznikum, tiskovy mluvci Verizonu se > snazil > mystifikovat americke i britske novinare, britsky zpravodajsky server > Theregister.co.uk zjistil, ze nemuze dorucit e-mailovy newsletter svym > americkym ctenarum. Problem trva jiz od prosince, byl jsem proto zvedav, > zda > se jiz problem podarilo zvladnout. Snazil jsem se Verizonu poslat dotaz > e-mailem ze serveru, ktery lezi v Ceske republice a nikdy nebyl zarazen na > zadne cerne listine rozesilatelu spamu. > > Dotaz, zda je jeste stale blokovan e-mailovy veskery provoz z Evropy, jsem > adresoval technicke podpore a bezpecnostnimu oddeleni Verizonu na > kontaktni > e-mailove adresy, ktere samotny Verizon publikoval. K memu velkemu > prekvapeni mi postovni server odpovedel takto: > > "Your message could not be delivered for 4.0 hours. > It will be retried until it is 5.0 days old. > (...) > : connect to relay.verizon.net[206.46.170.12]: > Connection > timed out > > : connect to relay.verizon.net[206.46.170.12]: > Connection > timed out" > > Cenzura e-mailove komunikace ze strany Verizonu tedy zrejme pokracuje. > Legracni je, ze cenzurovane pripojeni k Internetu je na strance > http://www22.verizon.com/foryourhome/sas/ProdDesc.asp?ID=10035&NPA=&NXX=&CategoryID=301&state=NY&TrackID=VFD > nabizeno pod nazvem "Verizon Freedom Unlimited with DSL" :-) > > Chtel bych se zeptat zdejsich diskutujicich, zda jejich e-maily odeslane z > Evropy na adresy u Verizonu nakonec dorazily na misto urceni, nebo ne. > > Zdravi Petr > > > > http://verizonpathetic.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000635.html > Blocked Email from Europe > posted 12-28-2004 08:23 PM > Does anyone know anything about Verizon's new policy of blocking most > email > to its customers from European ISPs? Apparently this has something to do > with spam coming from Europe so they just decided to block mail from all > these countries - without telling anyone about it! > > I am involved in projects where I receive emails from people in Europe > every > day & this has come to a complete halt since the mail is not getting > through. > > I spoke to Verizon tech support MANY times over the past 2 weeks & none of > them even admitted this had happened. They kept telling me there was no > problem with Verizon but that it was the European mail servers that were > bouncing the mail. This was completely untrue but if you call them right > now > they'll still say the same thing. > > How is it possible that Verizon can just suddenly decide to block all > email > from a huge part of the world & then deny it's happening? Hmmm maybe this > should have been in the 'pain' section. > > posted 01-02-2005 01:24 AM > Absolutely right: I face same issue. VERIZON proposes to include e-mail > addresses in an "authorized" list. This is perfectly unacceptable. If > nothing changes, I'll have to switch again but can't afford these methods. > > > http://spam.gunters.org/archive/2005/01/11/say-it-isnt-so-verizon-blacklists-europe > 1/11/2005 > Say It Isn't So. Verizon Blacklists Europe! > Filed under: Imported - admin @ 8:05 am > > Say It Isn\'t So. Verizon Blacklists Europe! > > Still waiting to seal the deal with that prospect in Great Britain? If > your email provider is Verizon, it may be a very long wait. > > You see, Verizon seems to have found a new love: blocklisting. And > Europe seems to be among those things Verizon loves to block. or at least, > large swaths of European IP ranges. Customers, of course, are livid. Some > claim the service isn't even good enough for home use. > > Verizon reps say the whole matter will be resolved in a few days. As > the > problem has already dragged on since December 22, customers may be > forgiven > for skepticism. > > Blacklists are just one of the many tools in a Secure Email Boundary > (SEB) toolkit. Over reliance results in Sudden Customer Death (SCD). > > Verizon's about to suffer a case of SCD. > > > >
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 | | From: | Pepicek | | Subject: | Re: Zda se, ze americky ISP Verizon cenzuruje e-maily svych zakazniku a jeste lze | | Date: | Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:43:39 GMT |
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 | Jsou to komunisti! J.W.Bush je vede! J.McC na ne! Pepa
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