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 | | From: | merylnro at hotmail.com | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcysteine supplementation | | Date: | 11 Jan 2005 18:56:43 -0800 |
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 | A press release about Mercury in Thimerosal from the National Vaccine
Information Center in July of 1999 press pointed out that, "The
cumulative effects of ingesting mercury can cause brain damage." During
this same month, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) and the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) alerted the public
about the possible health effects associated with thimerosal-containing
vaccines. These health-related organizations strongly recommended that
thimerosal be removed from vaccines as soon as possible. Under the
directive of the FDA Modernization Act of 1997, the Food and Drug
Administration also determined that infants who received several
thimerosal-containing vaccines may be receiving mercury exposure over
and above the recommended federal guidelines. The link between
thimerosal and autism and other learning disabilities has continued to
be argued for decades. Thimerosal is 49.6% ethylmercury and was widely
used since the 1940s in over the counter drugs. After being banned in
1998 from over the counter drugs, thimerosal is still found in some
vaccines. Mercury is the second most toxic substance known to man
behind uranium. N-Acetylcysteine or NAC is mentioned in your
artiicle which states how helpful it is in facilitating the
detoxification pathway within the body. NAC is produced in living
organisms from the amino acid cysteine. Thus, NAC is a natural
sulfur-containing amino acid derivative found naturally in foods and is
a powerful antioxidant. These dual properties help repair oxidative
damage in the body. Being a powerful anti-oxidant and cell
detoxification co-factor, NAC works to eliminate your body of free
radicals and heavy metals. In short, it improves your cellular health
tremendously and is currently the dietary supplement of choice for
building up cysteine or conserving the body's store of Glutathione,
This is very crucial for the body's life functions, as NAC helps the
body neutralize toxins, heavy metals, such as mercury from dental
amalgam fillings, cadmium and lead from paint and cigarette smoke. The
Sulfhydryl balance has also been linked to enhance resistance to viral
infections. Taken regularly over a period of time, NAC will remove many
toxic heavy metals from the body.
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| | From: | Mark Probert | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcysteine supplementation | | Date: | Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:17:30 -0500 |
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> Thimerosal is 49.6% ethylmercury
Anyone who took a high school chemistry course can see how bogus this claim
is. I'll give you a hint:
The 49.6% number is the percentage that the mercury atom in thimerosal is as
part of the molecular weight.
Now, explain why this percentage is significant (other than being a large
percentage).
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| | From: | Peter Bowditch | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcysteine supplementation | | Date: | Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:14:42 GMT |
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| "Mark Probert" wrote:
>
> wrote in message
>news:1105498603.147769.60950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
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>> Thimerosal is 49.6% ethylmercury
>
>Anyone who took a high school chemistry course can see how bogus this claim
>is. I'll give you a hint:
>
>The 49.6% number is the percentage that the mercury atom in thimerosal is as
>part of the molecular weight.
>
>Now, explain why this percentage is significant (other than being a large
>percentage).
>
>
Note also that the statement "Thimerosal is 49.6% ethylmercury" is
contrary to the teachings of His Holiness Professor Boyd Haley, who in
a personal communication with me said "mercury is 49.59% of the weight
of thimerosal". He was talking about elemental mercury at the time,
not the chemical compound ethylmercury.
Unless, of course, the writer was referring to a claim made elsewhere
by Dr Haley where he contradicted himself.
--
Peter Bowditch
The Millenium Project
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud
http://www.acahf.org.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
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| | From: | john | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcysteine supplementation | | Date: | Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:37:11 +0000 (UTC) |
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"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message
> Note also that the statement "Thimerosal is 49.6% ethylmercury" is
> contrary to the teachings of His Holiness Professor Boyd Haley, who in
> a personal communication with me said "mercury is 49.59% of the weight
> of thimerosal". He was talking about elemental mercury at the time,
> not the chemical compound ethylmercury.
>
> Unless, of course, the writer was referring to a claim made elsewhere
> by Dr Haley where he contradicted himself.
>
it is sad you pharma morons are reduced to claiming thimerosol is somehow
safe by barfing about the mercury content and toxicity.
http://www.nomercury.org/Is_Mercury_Dangerous.htm
Specific Toxicities of Thimerosal
After years of medical practice, many physicians and other health
professionals were indeed shocked to learn that most vaccines used over the
years actually contained up to 25 micrograms of ethyl mercury. Ethyl
mercury, despite what some have professed, has a very similar toxicological
profile as the dreaded methyl mercury found in water, fish, and soil.
As a physician, I was recently shocked by the comments of a neighboring
state's chief epidemiologist who informed a state legislator (who was
considering a "ban Thimerosal" bill) that ethyl mercury, compared to methyl
mercury, was safe because ethyl alcohol was safe and methyl alcohol wasn't.
Of course, any high school chemistry student knows better. Would this same
epidemiologist take an injection of ethyl plutonium?
In fact, there have been many peer-reviewed studies that addressed
Thimerosal specifically. Here are just a few highlights:
The comparative toxicology of ethyl- and methyl mercury by Magos, Brown,
Sparrow, Bailey, et al published in the Archives of Toxicology (1985) 57:
260-267., has stated:
"There was little difference in the neurotoxicities of methylmercury and
ethylmercury when effects on the dorsal root ganglia or coordination
disorders were compared."
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| | From: | David Wright | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcysteine supplementation | | Date: | Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:13:20 GMT |
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| In article ,
john wrote:
>
>"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message
>> Note also that the statement "Thimerosal is 49.6% ethylmercury" is
>> contrary to the teachings of His Holiness Professor Boyd Haley, who in
>> a personal communication with me said "mercury is 49.59% of the weight
>> of thimerosal". He was talking about elemental mercury at the time,
>> not the chemical compound ethylmercury.
>>
>> Unless, of course, the writer was referring to a claim made elsewhere
>> by Dr Haley where he contradicted himself.
>>
>
>it is sad you pharma morons are reduced to claiming thimerosol is somehow
>safe by barfing about the mercury content and toxicity.
>
> http://www.nomercury.org/Is_Mercury_Dangerous.htm
>Specific Toxicities of Thimerosal
>
>After years of medical practice, many physicians and other health
>professionals were indeed shocked to learn that most vaccines used over the
>years actually contained up to 25 micrograms of ethyl mercury. Ethyl
>mercury, despite what some have professed, has a very similar toxicological
>profile as the dreaded methyl mercury found in water, fish, and soil.
>
>As a physician, I was recently shocked by the comments of a neighboring
>state's chief epidemiologist who informed a state legislator (who was
>considering a "ban Thimerosal" bill) that ethyl mercury, compared to methyl
>mercury, was safe because ethyl alcohol was safe and methyl alcohol wasn't.
>Of course, any high school chemistry student knows better. Would this same
>epidemiologist take an injection of ethyl plutonium?
>
>In fact, there have been many peer-reviewed studies that addressed
>Thimerosal specifically. Here are just a few highlights:
>
>The comparative toxicology of ethyl- and methyl mercury by Magos, Brown,
>Sparrow, Bailey, et al published in the Archives of Toxicology (1985) 57:
>260-267., has stated:
>
>"There was little difference in the neurotoxicities of methylmercury and
>ethylmercury when effects on the dorsal root ganglia or coordination
>disorders were compared."
As a person who can read and then comprehend what he reads, I was not
at all shocked that Scudamore would screw up again and post this
nearly meaningless study as if it were some sort of evidence against
the use of thimerosal in vaccines.
Here's one good quote from the abstract:
Based on both criteria, an equimolar dose of ethylmercury was less
neurotoxic than methylmercury
So we're off to a fine start. But more importantly, and this is not
at all surprising when you consider what a scientific illiterate
Scudamore is, the usefulness of this study (for applicability to
vaccines) is near zero. Here's why:
1) The study was done in rats, not humans.
2) The rats were being administered 8.0 or 9.6 *milligrams* (per
kilogram of body weight) of mercury compounds five times per day.
(The abstract does not say how long this went on.)
3) The compound administered was ethylmercuric chloride or
methylmercuric chloride.
But it's point 2 in the list above that really makes the difference.
If you translate the dosage to, say, a 5 kg (11 lb) infant, that
infant would be getting at least 40 milligrams of mercury PER DAY.
In order to get that much from a thimerosal-containing vaccine, the
infant would have to receive 1600 vaccine injections PER DAY. (Well,
that's approximate, since the rats weren't getting that sort of
injection, but close enough.)
The fact that the rats were taking some nerve damage, but not just
dropping dead on the spot, shows that the mercury is less toxic than I
would have expected.
What's more important is that other studies have shown that mercury in
vaccines is not the horror that the anti-vac/angy-Hg loons attempt to
portray. For example, Pichichero et al, "Mercury concentrations and
metabolism in infants receiving vaccines containing thiomersal: a
descriptive study." (Lancet Nov 30 2002) has this:
FINDINGS: Mean mercury doses in infants exposed to thiomersal were
45.6 microg (range 37.5-62.5) for 2-month-olds and 111.3 microg
(range 87.5-175.0) for 6-month-olds. Blood mercury in
thiomersal-exposed 2-month-olds ranged from less than 3.75 to 20.55
nmol/L (parts per billion); in 6-month-olds all values were lower
than 7.50 nmol/L. Only one of 15 blood samples from controls
contained quantifiable mercury. Concentrations of mercury were low
in urine after vaccination but were high in stools of
thiomersal-exposed 2-month-olds (mean 82 ng/g dry weight) and in
6-month-olds (mean 58 ng/g dry weight). Estimated blood half-life of
ethylmercury was 7 days (95% CI 4-10 days). INTERPRETATION:
Administration of vaccines containing thiomersal does not seem to
raise blood concentrations of mercury above safe values in
infants. Ethylmercury seems to be eliminated from blood rapidly via
the stools after parenteral administration of thiomersal in
vaccines.
Meanwhile, here's a 2003 J. Appl Toxicol. paper by Magos:
The decomposition rate of organomercurials and the potency of the
blood-brain barrier increase with the size of the organic
radical. Thus methylmercury damages the brain more than thimerosal
does, and when intake limits set for methylmercury are applied to
thimerosal the safety margin is increased even if the clearances
were the same. However, the clearance half-time of ethylmercury in
adults is about one-third of the 50 days' clearance half-time of
methylmercury given for 60 kg body weight. Moreover, because
metabolic rates (e.g. basal metabolism, daily loss of mercury in per
cent of body burden) in different weight groups are related to the
fractional power of body weight (rule of allometry), mercury clears
from the infant body faster than from the adult body. Blood mercury
concentrations observed after vaccination showed agreement with
allometrically extrapolated concentrations. Copyright 2003 John
Wiley & Sons, Ltd.
-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
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| | From: | Kevysmom | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcystein | | Date: | Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:41:17 -0500 |
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| Pregnant women were "Injected" with mercury via Rhogam or the flu vaccine
with 25-35 mcg of Mercury. The EPA limit for "INGESTING" mercury is 6 mcg
for a 132 lb person. There is no safe limit on INJECTING mercury into a
pregnant woman, Mercury crosses over the placenta and targets the brain of
a fetus, the fetus has no blood brain barrier to protect itself from the
mercury. Mercury is a Neurotoxin....What do you think happens to a fetal
brain after mercury makes its way there???
Methyl-mercury, usually from contaminated food, is very dangerous to
pregnant women. Methyl-mercury causes profound mental retardation,
cerebral
palsy, seizures, spasticity, tremors, and incoordination, along with
eye and
hearing damage in the unborn baby as a result of the mother's
exposure.
Organic mercury passes into the breast milk as well.
The effect of thimerosal, an organomercurial preservative in
vaccines, on cerebellar neurons dissociated from 2-week-old rats was
compared with those of methylmercury using a flow cytometer with
appropriate fluorescent dyes. Thimerosal and methylmercury at
concentrations ranging from 0.3 to 10 microM increased the
intracellular concentration of Ca2+ ([Ca2+]i) in a concentration-
dependent manner. The potency of 10 microM thimerosal to increase
the [Ca2+]i was less than that of 10 microM methylmercury. Their
effects on the [Ca2+]i were greatly attenuated, but not completely
suppressed, under external Ca(2+)-free condition, suggesting a
possibility that both agents increase membrane Ca2+ permeability and
release Ca2+ from intracellular calcium stores. The effect of 10
microM thimerosal was not affected by simultaneous application of 30
microM L-cysteine whereas that of 10 microM methylmercury was
significantly suppressed. The potency of thimerosal was similar to
that of methylmercury in the presence of L-cysteine. Both agents at
1 microM or more similarly decreased the cellular content of
glutathione in a concentration-dependent manner, suggesting an
increase in oxidative stress. Results indicate that thimerosal
exerts some cytotoxic actions on cerebellar granule neurons
dissociated from 2-week-old rats and its potency is almost similar
to that of methylmercury.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?
cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=14698570&dopt=Abstract
It should be noted that this research study compared equal doses of
methylmercury and thimerosal. However, thimerosal is only 1/2 mercury
(ethylmercury), so the authors should have compared 1/2 dose
thimerosal
with 1 dose methylmercury. The conclusion would then be that
ethylmercury is equally potent to methylmercury in increasing Ca2++.
The
study also says that unlike methylmercury (which is usually bound to
cysteine in a cell) thimerosal's potency is unaffected by presence of
L-cysteine in the neuron, so under in vivo conditions the effects of
ethylmercury are likely greater (by a factor or 2) than methyl.
Finally,
the study shows that thimerosal is more potent than methyl in
decreasing
glutathione levels in the cell, which is what other researchers
have/are
finding as well.
Effects of Mercury Administered during Pregnancy
A reader named "Donna" contacted Midwifery Today E-News with an
informal study she conducted of mothers who were "injected" with
mercury while pregnant. She started with her own story:
http://www.midwiferytoday.com/enews/enews0624.asp?
Donna (mother to a profoundly MERCURY poisoned child)
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| | From: | Kevysmom | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcystein | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:55:33 -0500 |
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| Pregnant women were "Injected" with mercury via Rhogam or the flu vaccine
with 25-35 mcg of Mercury. The EPA limit for "INGESTING" mercury is 6
mcg
for a 132 lb person. There is no safe limit on INJECTING mercury into a
pregnant woman, Mercury crosses over the placenta and targets the brain
of
a fetus, the fetus has no blood brain barrier to protect itself from the
mercury. Mercury is a Neurotoxin....What do you think happens to a fetal
brain after mercury makes its way there???
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| | From: | Kevysmom | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcystein | | Date: | Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:41:36 -0500 |
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| Pregnant women were "Injected" with mercury via Rhogam or the flu vaccine
with 25-35 mcg of Mercury. The EPA limit for "INGESTING" mercury is 6 mcg
for a 132 lb person. There is no safe limit on INJECTING mercury into a
pregnant woman, Mercury crosses over the placenta and targets the brain of
a fetus, the fetus has no blood brain barrier to protect itself from the
mercury. Mercury is a Neurotoxin....What do you think happens to a fetal
brain after mercury makes its way there???
Methyl-mercury, usually from contaminated food, is very dangerous to
pregnant women. Methyl-mercury causes profound mental retardation,
cerebral
palsy, seizures, spasticity, tremors, and incoordination, along with
eye and
hearing damage in the unborn baby as a result of the mother's
exposure.
Organic mercury passes into the breast milk as well.
The effect of thimerosal, an organomercurial preservative in
vaccines, on cerebellar neurons dissociated from 2-week-old rats was
compared with those of methylmercury using a flow cytometer with
appropriate fluorescent dyes. Thimerosal and methylmercury at
concentrations ranging from 0.3 to 10 microM increased the
intracellular concentration of Ca2+ ([Ca2+]i) in a concentration-
dependent manner. The potency of 10 microM thimerosal to increase
the [Ca2+]i was less than that of 10 microM methylmercury. Their
effects on the [Ca2+]i were greatly attenuated, but not completely
suppressed, under external Ca(2+)-free condition, suggesting a
possibility that both agents increase membrane Ca2+ permeability and
release Ca2+ from intracellular calcium stores. The effect of 10
microM thimerosal was not affected by simultaneous application of 30
microM L-cysteine whereas that of 10 microM methylmercury was
significantly suppressed. The potency of thimerosal was similar to
that of methylmercury in the presence of L-cysteine. Both agents at
1 microM or more similarly decreased the cellular content of
glutathione in a concentration-dependent manner, suggesting an
increase in oxidative stress. Results indicate that thimerosal
exerts some cytotoxic actions on cerebellar granule neurons
dissociated from 2-week-old rats and its potency is almost similar
to that of methylmercury.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?
cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=14698570&dopt=Abstract
It should be noted that this research study compared equal doses of
methylmercury and thimerosal. However, thimerosal is only 1/2 mercury
(ethylmercury), so the authors should have compared 1/2 dose
thimerosal
with 1 dose methylmercury. The conclusion would then be that
ethylmercury is equally potent to methylmercury in increasing Ca2++.
The
study also says that unlike methylmercury (which is usually bound to
cysteine in a cell) thimerosal's potency is unaffected by presence of
L-cysteine in the neuron, so under in vivo conditions the effects of
ethylmercury are likely greater (by a factor or 2) than methyl.
Finally,
the study shows that thimerosal is more potent than methyl in
decreasing
glutathione levels in the cell, which is what other researchers
have/are
finding as well.
Effects of Mercury Administered during Pregnancy
A reader named "Donna" contacted Midwifery Today E-News with an
informal study she conducted of mothers who were "injected" with
mercury while pregnant. She started with her own story:
http://www.midwiferytoday.com/enews/enews0624.asp?
Donna (mother to a profoundly MERCURY poisoned child)
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| | From: | Kevysmom | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcystein | | Date: | Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:47:54 -0500 |
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| Pregnant women were "INJECTED" with 25-35 mcg of mercury via Rhogam or the
flu vaccine, The EPA limit for "INGESTING" mercury is 6 mcg for a 132 lb
person!!!
Methyl-mercury, usually from contaminated food, is very dangerous to
pregnant women. Methyl-mercury causes profound mental retardation,
cerebral
palsy, seizures, spasticity, tremors, and incoordination, along with
eye and
hearing damage in the unborn baby as a result of the mother's
exposure.
Organic mercury passes into the breast milk as well.
The effect of thimerosal, an organomercurial preservative in
vaccines, on cerebellar neurons dissociated from 2-week-old rats was
compared with those of methylmercury using a flow cytometer with
appropriate fluorescent dyes. Thimerosal and methylmercury at
concentrations ranging from 0.3 to 10 microM increased the
intracellular concentration of Ca2+ ([Ca2+]i) in a concentration-
dependent manner. The potency of 10 microM thimerosal to increase
the [Ca2+]i was less than that of 10 microM methylmercury. Their
effects on the [Ca2+]i were greatly attenuated, but not completely
suppressed, under external Ca(2+)-free condition, suggesting a
possibility that both agents increase membrane Ca2+ permeability and
release Ca2+ from intracellular calcium stores. The effect of 10
microM thimerosal was not affected by simultaneous application of 30
microM L-cysteine whereas that of 10 microM methylmercury was
significantly suppressed. The potency of thimerosal was similar to
that of methylmercury in the presence of L-cysteine. Both agents at
1 microM or more similarly decreased the cellular content of
glutathione in a concentration-dependent manner, suggesting an
increase in oxidative stress. Results indicate that thimerosal
exerts some cytotoxic actions on cerebellar granule neurons
dissociated from 2-week-old rats and its potency is almost similar
to that of methylmercury.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?
cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=14698570&dopt=Abstract
It should be noted that this research study compared equal doses of
methylmercury and thimerosal. However, thimerosal is only 1/2 mercury
(ethylmercury), so the authors should have compared 1/2 dose
thimerosal
with 1 dose methylmercury. The conclusion would then be that
ethylmercury is equally potent to methylmercury in increasing Ca2++.
The
study also says that unlike methylmercury (which is usually bound to
cysteine in a cell) thimerosal's potency is unaffected by presence of
L-cysteine in the neuron, so under in vivo conditions the effects of
ethylmercury are likely greater (by a factor or 2) than methyl.
Finally,
the study shows that thimerosal is more potent than methyl in
decreasing
glutathione levels in the cell, which is what other researchers
have/are
finding as well.
Effects of Mercury Administered during Pregnancy
A reader named "Donna" contacted Midwifery Today E-News with an
informal study she conducted of mothers who were "injected" with
mercury while pregnant. She started with her own story:
http://www.midwiferytoday.com/enews/enews0624.asp?
Dont tell me mercury in these shots was safe!!!!
Donna (mom to a profoundly MERCURY poisoned child)
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| | From: | HCN | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcystein | | Date: | Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:29:36 -0800 |
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"Kevysmom" wrote in message
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> Pregnant women were "INJECTED" with 25-35 mcg of mercury via Rhogam or the
> flu vaccine, The EPA limit for "INGESTING" mercury is 6 mcg for a 132 lb
> person!!!
....
Out of curiousity... what happens when Rhogam is not used for a woman with
the wrong Rh factor compared to the baby she is carrying?
What was the usual outcome of Rh factor incompatibility?
I vaguely recall something from health ed. classes years ago... but I
forgot. Can you enlighten me please?
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| | From: | Kevysmom | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcystein | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:19:52 -0500 |
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| The shot does work after pregnancy when it can not possibly harm the
baby.
It offers NO additional benefit during pregnancy. The safety concern
during
pregnancy is real. Does it make sense to you to inject antibodies
into the
mother's blood stream that are designed for the sole purpose to
eliminate
cells of the baby? There are numerous case reports of babies born
anoxic
and asphyxiated because the RHoGam antibodies crossed the placenta
during
the gestation period. This is not the only safety concern with the
injection, just the most obvious.
http://www.whale.to/a/rh1.html
I have not met a mother that has been injected with rogam that contained
mercury with a healthy child.
Mercury was taken out of rhogam in 1996, and another brand of rhogam in
2001, And winrho never had mercury in it.
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| | From: | Mark Probert | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcystein | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:01:58 -0500 |
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"Kevysmom" wrote in message
news:ba7dcb219247f45181a73223f29cce3b@localhost.talkaboutparenting.com...
> The shot does work after pregnancy when it can not possibly harm the
> baby.
> It offers NO additional benefit during pregnancy. The safety concern
> during
> pregnancy is real. Does it make sense to you to inject antibodies
> into the
> mother's blood stream that are designed for the sole purpose to
> eliminate
> cells of the baby? There are numerous case reports of babies born
> anoxic
> and asphyxiated because the RHoGam antibodies crossed the placenta
> during
> the gestation period. This is not the only safety concern with the
> injection, just the most obvious.
>
>
> http://www.whale.to/a/rh1.html
You ought to learn that posting any URL from the WhaleBilge website
automatically proves you have a problem with reading, comprehension,
reserarching and assimilating clues. It is one of, if not the most,
criticized websites in the world.
> I have not met a mother that has been injected with rogam that contained
> mercury with a healthy child.
>
> Mercury was taken out of rhogam in 1996, and another brand of rhogam in
> 2001, And winrho never had mercury in it.
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| | From: | Kevysmom | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcystein | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:26:06 -0500 |
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| You ought to learn that posting any URL from the WhaleBilge website
automatically proves you have a problem with reading, comprehension,
reserarching and assimilating clues. It is one of, if not the most,
criticized websites in the world.
**************
Critized by Big Pharma who has a lot to lose!
I for one am a rhogam mom and have researched mercury poisoning for
thousands of hours, The FDA is in trouble for covering up for Vioxx, Do
you really think any thinking person would/could trust anything they have
to say? People neeed to do thier own research and find out how dangerous
it is to inject toxins into pregnant women!
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| | From: | Mark Probert | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcystein | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:37:25 -0500 |
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"Kevysmom" wrote in message
news:55f5ddb947da0faf30a573ef824ed2f7@localhost.talkaboutparenting.com...
> You ought to learn that posting any URL from the WhaleBilge website
> automatically proves you have a problem with reading, comprehension,
> reserarching and assimilating clues. It is one of, if not the most,
> criticized websites in the world.
>
>
> **************
>
> Critized by Big Pharma who has a lot to lose!
When all else fails, resort to a whacky, but nice, conspiracy theory.
It is criticized by anyone who has a working brain cell.
See: http://pages.ivillage.com/vaccinesupport/antivaxsites/whale.html
Also, at the bottom of the page
http://pages.ivillage.com/vaccinesupport/antivaxsites.html
see the articles and studies and then apply them to the bilge posted by
Johnny at his website.
> I for one am a rhogam mom and have researched mercury poisoning for
> thousands of hours, The FDA is in trouble for covering up for Vioxx, Do
> you really think any thinking person would/could trust anything they have
> to say? People neeed to do thier own research and find out how dangerous
> it is to inject toxins into pregnant women!
People need to do their own research and find out how much bilge is posted
on whale.to.
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| | From: | Kevysmom | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcystein | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:51:40 -0500 |
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| Pregnant women were "Injected" with mercury via Rhogam or the flu vaccine
with 25-35 mcg of Mercury. The EPA limit for "INGESTING" mercury is 6
mcg
for a 132 lb person. There is no safe limit on INJECTING mercury into a
pregnant woman, Mercury crosses over the placenta and targets the brain
of
a fetus, the fetus has no blood brain barrier to protect itself from the
mercury. Mercury is a Neurotoxin....What do you think happens to a fetal
brain after mercury makes its way there???
It is criminal to "POISON" another person. Someone should be in prison for
this!
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| | From: | Mark Probert | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcystein | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:56:33 -0500 |
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"Kevysmom" wrote in message
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> Pregnant women were "Injected" with mercury via Rhogam or the flu vaccine
> with 25-35 mcg of Mercury. The EPA limit for "INGESTING" mercury is 6
> mcg
> for a 132 lb person. There is no safe limit on INJECTING mercury into a
> pregnant woman, Mercury crosses over the placenta and targets the brain
> of
> a fetus, the fetus has no blood brain barrier to protect itself from the
> mercury. Mercury is a Neurotoxin....What do you think happens to a fetal
> brain after mercury makes its way there???
>
>
> It is criminal to "POISON" another person. Someone should be in prison for
> this!
I know you have you issue, but could you try to respond to the fact that the
whale.to website is the largest suppository of mis-information in the entire
universe?
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| | From: | Kevysmom | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcystein | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:07:43 -0500 |
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| Again, That is your opinion, And only your opinion! If it wasnt for these
organizations getting the truth out there about what Pharma is doing, I
would still be INJECTING my profoundly handicapped son with more mercury
every year via the Flu Vaccine.
1 out of 8 children in America is disabled enough to require a special
needs doctor! How do you think they all got disabled...Well Vaccines do
contain Mercury, Aluminum and Formaldahdyde, Three Neurtoxins injected
into a infant that has no blood brain barrier to protect against these
toxins. This is CRIMINAL! And some one is going to prison for this!
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| | From: | Mark Probert | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcystein | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:18:42 -0500 |
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"Kevysmom" wrote in message
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> Again, That is your opinion, And only your opinion!
No, you nincompoop, it is not just an poinion. I posted a URL of an
analysis, which used facts, to show how misleading and how wrong the
whale.bilge website is. You have yet to prove it is even slightly factual.
If it wasnt for these
> organizations getting the truth out there about what Pharma is doing, I
> would still be INJECTING my profoundly handicapped son with more mercury
> every year via the Flu Vaccine.
I sure hope he does not get the flu. My handicapped son got a vaccination
this year, as he does every year, and will always get.
> 1 out of 8 children in America is disabled enough to require a special
> needs doctor! How do you think they all got disabled...Well Vaccines do
> contain Mercury, Aluminum and Formaldahdyde, Three Neurtoxins injected
> into a infant that has no blood brain barrier to protect against these
> toxins.
Did you know that there have been studies that show that a baby clears
mercury from thimerosal so fast, that the speed nearly screwed up the study?
Are you aware of the amounts of Al and Formaldehydeused, and whether they
are toxic? Are you aware that Formaldehyde is often a metabolite of several
foods that are given to children?
> This is CRIMINAL! And some one is going to prison for this!
Your lack of knowledge may actually get you there.
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| | From: | Kevysmom | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcystein | | Date: | Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:21:01 -0500 |
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| I sure hope he does not get the flu. My handicapped son got a vaccination
this year, as he does every year, and will always get.
I feel so sorry for your child, thats even if you have one! I for one have
seen children get worse each year from the mercury that was injected into
severly disabled children including my son.
> 1 out of 8 children in America is disabled enough to require a special
> needs doctor! How do you think they all got disabled...Well Vaccines do
> contain Mercury, Aluminum and Formaldahdyde, Three Neurtoxins injected
> into a infant that has no blood brain barrier to protect against these
> toxins.
Did you know that there have been studies that show that a baby clears
mercury from thimerosal so fast, that the speed nearly screwed up the
study?
And who was this study funded by? This is something Pharma would love to
have us believe!
Are you aware of the amounts of Al and Formaldehydeused, and whether they
are toxic? Are you aware that Formaldehyde is often a metabolite of
several
foods that are given to children?
And Formaldahyde is a neurotoxin that was / maybe still is in Baby
vaccines that is INJECTED into infants!
Formaldehyde is an akylating compound. Therefore, it binds to DNA,
causing
mutations. It also binds to proteins, denaturing them. In the
process of
denaturing the proteins it renders them foreign to the immune
system Thus,
there is a general immune response, which may lead to altered
pathways for
enzymes and signaling mechanisms with respect to normal
development. The
immune response may also lead to various states of autoimmunity,
e.g. lups.
Toxicologist/Immunotoxicologist
> This is CRIMINAL! And some one is going to prison for this!
Your lack of knowledge may actually get you there.
No, your lack of compassion for children may actually get you there! As
you are well aware of the facts!
Sincerely,
Donna (mom to a profoundly mercury poisoned child)
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| | From: | Mark Probert | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcystein | | Date: | Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:38:25 -0500 |
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"Kevysmom" wrote in message
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> I sure hope he does not get the flu. My handicapped son got a vaccination
> this year, as he does every year, and will always get.
>
>
>
> I feel so sorry for your child, thats even if you have one!
.
Would you care to see a few photos, numbskull? My kids are wel lknown in
this group. Who really knows if you have any?
I for one have
> seen children get worse each year from the mercury that was injected into
> severly disabled children including my son.
If you have seen that, let me suggest a full check up from the neck up,
starting with an ophthalmologist and finishing with a psychiatrist. The
mercury in vaccines, what little there is left of it, is rapidly excreted
through stools. IOW, a few good bowel movements over a few weeks and, voila!
it is gone.
Do check your facts after you find some.
> > 1 out of 8 children in America is disabled enough to require a special
> > needs doctor! How do you think they all got disabled...Well Vaccines do
> > contain Mercury, Aluminum and Formaldahdyde, Three Neurtoxins injected
> > into a infant that has no blood brain barrier to protect against these
> > toxins.
>
> Did you know that there have been studies that show that a baby clears
> mercury from thimerosal so fast, that the speed nearly screwed up the
> study?
>
> And who was this study funded by? This is something Pharma would love to
> have us believe!
The finding was incidental to the actual study. As for who funded it, the
man in the moon. I do not live and think by conspiracy therories alone. Sad
that you do.
>> Are you aware of the amounts of Al and Formaldehydeused, and whether they
>> are toxic? Are you aware that Formaldehyde is often a metabolite of
>> several
>> foods that are given to children?
You do not seem to be aware of much.
> And Formaldahyde is a neurotoxin that was / maybe still is in Baby
> vaccines that is INJECTED into infants!
Dose makes the toxin. How much, and prove it is toxic.
> Formaldehyde is an akylating compound. Therefore, it binds to DNA,
> causing
> mutations. It also binds to proteins, denaturing them. In the
> process of
> denaturing the proteins it renders them foreign to the immune
> system Thus,
> there is a general immune response, which may lead to altered
> pathways for
> enzymes and signaling mechanisms with respect to normal
> development. The
> immune response may also lead to various states of autoimmunity,
> e.g. lups.
I suggest tha tyou stop eating all foods, as you are likely to have
Formaldehyde produce as the result of digestion.
>
> Toxicologist/Immunotoxicologist
> > This is CRIMINAL! And some one is going to prison for this!
>
> Your lack of knowledge may actually get you there.
>
>
>
> No, your lack of compassion for children may actually get you there! As
> you are well aware of the facts!
Yes, I am well aware of real facts, and understand their importance.
Obviously, you are scientifically illiterate. Did youever take chemistry in
high school?
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| | From: | Mark Probert | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcysteine supplementation | | Date: | Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:16:11 -0500 |
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"john" wrote in message
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> "Peter Bowditch" wrote in message
> > Note also that the statement "Thimerosal is 49.6% ethylmercury" is
> > contrary to the teachings of His Holiness Professor Boyd Haley, who in
> > a personal communication with me said "mercury is 49.59% of the weight
> > of thimerosal". He was talking about elemental mercury at the time,
> > not the chemical compound ethylmercury.
> >
> > Unless, of course, the writer was referring to a claim made elsewhere
> > by Dr Haley where he contradicted himself.
> >
>
> it is sad you pharma morons are reduced to claiming thimerosol is somehow
> safe by barfing about the mercury content and toxicity.
It is sad that you anti-vac murderers of children are reduced to claiming
that thimerosal is somehow unsafe by posting your cleanses about the mercury
content to imply toxicity.
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| | From: | David Wright | | Subject: | Re: Thimerosal neurotoxicity and protection with N-Acetylcysteine supplementation | | Date: | Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:13:36 GMT |
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| In article <1105498603.147769.60950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
wrote:
>A press release about Mercury in Thimerosal from the National Vaccine
>Information Center in July of 1999 press pointed out that, "The
>cumulative effects of ingesting mercury can cause brain damage." During
>this same month, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) and the
>Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) alerted the public
>about the possible health effects associated with thimerosal-containing
>vaccines. These health-related organizations strongly recommended that
>thimerosal be removed from vaccines as soon as possible.
This has now been done. To the surprise of nobody other than the
anti-mercury fanatics, autism has not become a thing of the past.
>Under the>directive of the FDA Modernization Act of 1997, the Food
>and Drug Administration also determined that infants who received
>several thimerosal-containing vaccines may be receiving mercury
>exposure over and above the recommended federal guidelines.
Well, not really. Also, it does appear that the body clears
ethylmercury very quickly, so the exposure is short.
>The link between thimerosal and autism and other learning
>disabilities has continued to be argued for decades.
Because the anti-thimerosal people don't want to give up on it.
>Thimerosal is 49.6% ethylmercury and was widely used since the 1940s
>in over the counter drugs. After being banned in 1998 from over the
>counter drugs, thimerosal is still found in some vaccines.
Though flu vaccine is the only such vaccine that is also recommended
for children.
>Mercury is the second most toxic substance known to man behind
>uranium.
No, it's not. Not even close. Nor is uranium the most toxic
substance known.
taking lithium carbonate, to help reduce liver toxicity>
-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
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