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 | | From: | Richard Wright | | Subject: | What is origin of name Salad-Magunday | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:00:06 +1100 |
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 | Mary Kettilby's book of receipts (3rd ed. of 1724) has a recipe with
the title "To make a Cold Hash, or Salad-Magunday".
Can't find word 'Magunday' on the web or in OED.
Any suggestions about its origin?
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| | From: | Jack Campin - bogus address | | Subject: | Re: What is origin of name Salad-Magunday | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:51:55 +0000 |
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| > Mary Kettilby's book of receipts (3rd ed. of 1724) has a recipe
> with the title "To make a Cold Hash, or Salad-Magunday".
> Can't find word 'Magunday' on the web or in OED.
> Any suggestions about its origin?
Salmagundi. I seem to remember it's from Tamil, but my 1st ed. OED
only traces it back to a 17th century French word it says is obscure.
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| | From: | Christophe Bachmann | | Subject: | Re: What is origin of name Salad-Magunday | | Date: | Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:27:16 +0100 |
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| Jack Campin wrote :
>> Mary Kettilby's book of receipts (3rd ed. of 1724) has a recipe
>> with the title "To make a Cold Hash, or Salad-Magunday".
>> Can't find word 'Magunday' on the web or in OED.
>> Any suggestions about its origin?
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> Salmagundi. I seem to remember it's from Tamil, but my 1st ed. OED
> only traces it back to a 17th century French word it says is obscure.
>
Ok, that one comes from the french 'salmigondis' which comes from Old Frech
'salemine' (salt) and Latin 'condire' (to season). It was used for a stew
made of various leftover meats, but under Louis XIV it designed a potluck
dinner. It is now only used figuratively and pejoratively in the sense of
'hodgepodge'. Of course the etymology could be false but it gives a
direction for research.
Hope this helps,
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Salutations, greetings,
Guiraud Belissen, Château du Ciel, Drachenwald
Chris CII, Rennes, France
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| | From: | Richard Wright | | Subject: | Re: What is origin of name Salad-Magunday | | Date: | Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:30:57 +1100 |
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| On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:27:16 +0100, "Christophe Bachmann"
wrote:
>Jack Campin wrote :
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>>> Mary Kettilby's book of receipts (3rd ed. of 1724) has a recipe
>>> with the title "To make a Cold Hash, or Salad-Magunday".
>>> Can't find word 'Magunday' on the web or in OED.
>>> Any suggestions about its origin?
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>> Salmagundi. I seem to remember it's from Tamil, but my 1st ed. OED
>> only traces it back to a 17th century French word it says is obscure.
>>
>Ok, that one comes from the french 'salmigondis' which comes from Old Frech
>'salemine' (salt) and Latin 'condire' (to season). It was used for a stew
>made of various leftover meats, but under Louis XIV it designed a potluck
>dinner. It is now only used figuratively and pejoratively in the sense of
>'hodgepodge'. Of course the etymology could be false but it gives a
>direction for research.
>
>Hope this helps,
Thanks Jack and Christophe. That was the lead I needed.
Interesting to see the variants in the OED: salmagundi, salmagondi,
salamongundy, sallad-magundy, Solomon Gundy, salmi-, salmogundy,
salmagunda, salmagundy
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