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JCT: I know I'm making headway when the bankster moles start
yelping. Despite the fact the World Social Forum will be
getting its information on interest-free LETS currencies
from the small-minded likes of Stephen DeMeulenaere and that
I'm not able to go counteract the damage he hopes to
continue doing to the UNILETS movement, there is one thing I
can do to counteract his sabotage.
If anyone going to the World Social Forum wants to do a
showing of the TURMEL video on UNILETS while they're there,
I'll send a copy directly to Brazil for you. I promised the
Csomor brothers I'd try to get it premiered where it counts
so if you are a global vision LETSer and you are going or
know someone who is, I invite you to contact me so I can see
about getting a video to you.
I want to be able to advertise the event even during the WSF
just to flaunt it in the face of bankster moles. In one's
previous post:
>Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:25:13 +0800
>From: stephen@strohalm.nl (Stephen DeMeulenaere)
>To: TURMEL@ncf.ca
>Subject: Please do not send any more messages to me.
>Re: TURMEL: World Social Credits for tsunami repair
SD: Dear John Turmel, I do not share your approach to the
promotion of complementary currency systems,
JCT: He doesn't share my approach to poker chips. Har har
har har. Interest-free tokens are so complicated, this low-
teacher thinks they need different approaches. One approach
for the red tokens, another for the green ones, another for
the whites. Har har har har.
SD: or insistence on only one type of system
JCT: He calls his small database system one type and my big-
database system another type. He thinks a big model is a
different type of system from a small model. Has he not
grasped that size is his only difference of opinion? It is
only in that my big UNILETS system exhibits none of the
weaknesses of his smaller-use LETS system. How many times
have I bet that the problems associated with his smaller
systems do not happen in global database and how many times
has he backed down though I have no doubt he's been a motor-
mouth behind my back all these years.
SD: and ask that you do not forward these messages to me
anymore.
JCT: Hearing about his failures doesn't bother me, I wonder
why hearing about my successes bothers him? Oh right. He is
one of the prime doubters that LETS can work world-wide and
as the world comes to accept UNILETS as a UN LETS, it means
everybody else understand what Stephen's made his name at
not understanding. Har har har har. Everyone who understand
UNILETS can then read Stephen's explanations of why big
can't work. Har har har har. And rather than admit the
truth, he'd rather try to hide it.
SD: Please stay focused on the country and part of the world
you came from,
JCT: Money works differently in his part of the world? Har
har har.
SD: and do not meddle in affairs that you have clearly
displayed your ignorance about.
JCT: Imagine a guy with low-tech education dissing the guy
who engineered the system he claims he's an expert in! The
guy who thrust it on the would stage should stay out of it
and leave it to Johnny-come-lately Stephen to talk about.
After all the times I bet him to put his money where his
mouth was and all the times he's backed with the rest of
them and not he gets an uppity lip?
SD: Your spamming
JCT: He's reduced to pure name-calling. I call him names
once I've shown he's a low-tech who is too cowardly to put
his money where is mouth is. I thought I'd hushed his foul
mouth good years ago and just find out how that he's part of
the banksters giving the World Social Forum the wrong
impression of interest-free currencies. They see a loser
like Stephen and figure we're all minor figures in banking
systems engineering reform like him.
SD: Your spamming of the participants in WSF 2004
JCT: Ah, the banksters noticed I grabbed the emails of all
last year's participants and sent them into on UNILETS. He
calls info on UNILETS spamming, I wonder what he'd call his
info on ordinary LETS. He produces ordinary spam and I
produce spectacular spam?
SD: could have caused serious damage to our seminar and
workshops there
JCT: I hope some global vision people showed up at his work-
shop and embarrassed him by asking him why world-wide can't
work and he couldn't answer them like he's never been able
to answer. This kind of coward really gets my goat. Too
chicken to back up what he says and too two-faced to shut
up. Then again, it does let me expose his kind to the world
and give you an idea of the kind of resistance I've faced
trying to get the one-world-LETS message out.
He objects to my trying to influence the Forum while he's
got a place on the stage. It's okay for him to orate and try
to influence the Forum but he'd rather I not. As if I'm
going to deterred from my mission by someone too coward to
stand up and state his opposition.
It's not "UNILETS can't work because..." It's "Shut down
talk of UNILETS.' Does this sound like the argument of
someone with any integrity? And the LETS movement is filled
with this kind think-small leader. What's funny is that I am
the person who financed the Local Employment-Trading System
he says I'm against. And he knows it. He knows there might
not even be a LETS for him to promote without my having
financed the first LETS and he wants to stand up and show
the world how ignorant he is of the engineering of the
system he's on stage speaking about while dissing someone
with a superior grasp of the fundamentals.
I think the fact he's had some success with the
demonstration model I engineered for him has gone to his
head. He now thinks that because he's become a successful
salesman for the model that he knows more than The Engineer
behind the world model I had envisioned from the outset. So
I saw the LETS vision before him and the UNILETS vision
before that.
But unfortunately, he's going to be representing the LETS
movement at WSF 2005. Interest-free currencies will be
presented by a failure to understand the big picture. Is
this accidental? Is Stephen merely an incompetent fool? Or
is he a bankster mole whose only purpose is to keep delaying
UNILETS installation for as long as he can.
SD: and to our efforts to present our work as credible.
JCT: I think credible and DeMeulenaere are a contradiction
in terms. Isn't it interesting that his credibility is based
on my doings and my credibility is not based on his doings?
Why would his presentation on mini-lets bother me while my
presentation maxi-LETS bothers him unless he knows maxi-LETS
is the superior model and to prevent his being upstaged by
the superior system, he'd rather keep foisting his inferior
model on the world. That's more than mere cowardice,
that's perfidy to a forum looking for world solutions.
Imagine him going to a World Social Forum with the intention
of dissing the world LETS model and a local solution.
Betrayal of the LETS movement is another word like perfidy.
SD: You have no right to do this again for WSF 2005,
JCT: I don't are if I have no right to write to the WSF 2005
participants without your leave, I'm going to do it
anyway and I'm going to keep sending you a copy just to let
you know that I am acting without the right to do this
again, that is, write them letters again. Despite the
legislation that says I don't have the right to write them I
will and I challenge you do stop me from doing what you say
I don't have the right to do. Har har har.
SD: which is in complete disrespect to our colleagues from
many countries who will be attending and presenting on our
behalf.
JCT: If they have not seen the big picture like you and
their presentations, like yours, leave a false impression of
the power of LETS, they deserve no respect just as you
deserve no respect. The only difference is they'll back down
from my bets and still teach error but you'll boast about
your teaching error while backing down from my bets to prove
Biggest isn't Bestest. Then again, I have an degree in
applied science and you barely coped with high school
algebra. No wonder you can't bet with your betters and no
wonder you're upset about it.
SD: It makes little sense to piss everybody off
JCT: I know that my informing the World Social Forum that
they could set up a World-Wide-LETS may be upsetting to
someone preaching it can't work like you but why should
getting an email saying a WSF Timebank could save the world
and be set up in a week before Forum end upset anyone else.
Only you have your reputation to lose for having failed to
see the big picture, few else other than the "L in LETS is
for Local" crowd. Most other participants who received my
UNILETS message have no reason to be pissed off. They don't
look foolish if WSF installs a LETS. They didn't say it
couldn't be done. Only you did which explains why you don't
want WSF to set up a LETS. It would prove you wrong. So you
work against WSF LETS that could save the planet. You're a
bankster mole or moron. Somehow, I'd bet moron.
SD: and then ask why they are ignoring you,
JCT: You're upset because they can't ignore me. And now you
say I'm upset because they are? With people like you bad-
mouthing WSF LETS, it's not my fault people who would want
what WSF LETS could provide may not find out about it.
SD: or to present yourself as a leader when that could not
be farther from reality.
JCT: You don't even know what leadership is. You think
it's someone who leads where the crowd wants with its
approval. I think a leader is someone who goes where it's
right hoping the crowd follows, approval or not. Sure,
according to your definition, I can't be a leader because
you've deterred as many people as possible from following me
to my interest-free heaven. According to mine, I have led
the good fight and I'm proud of never having acted a coward
like you. I have always stood up for what's right and I've
dissed you to your face for your ignorance and cowardice.
Sure, I'm not your kind of leader, I wouldn't want to be.
SD: Please stop stepping on other people, such behavior is
completely unnecessary.
JCT: I'm glad you feel trod upon. Yes, you are clearly
inferior and it must feel that I'm stepping on you but
gutless behind-my-back critics don't deserve to be spared
the fate. You're a presumptuous coward and the fact you
can't suggest one flaw in UNILETS is all I need to prove it
after you diss job.
SD: Your assistance is not needed or wanted.
Stephen DeMeulenaere
JCT: Who do you think you are? Do you think I want to assist
you in your failed local model. LETS, Timebanks, Timedollars
are folding all over the planet after having been taught by
people like you to operate it inefficiently. I'd love to
have to time to go back in my archives and dig out how many
times I had to set him straight and how he finally shut up.
Now, suddenly, he objects to my writing to the Forum. Next
step is to try to ban me, no doubt. I'd bet he tried in the
past and of course, when the bankster war is over and heaven
has arrived, everyone will write the memoirs and we'll find
out about Stephen's back-room doings to slow UNILETS down.
Keep in mind that Stephen isn't the only person who's
sabotaged the world-LETS message. Bankster moles are
everywhere ready to do the dirty deed. They're always at the
centre of communications for a group they're herding. For
instance, TimeBanksUK@yahoogroups.com has a few nasty
banksters who put whether my UNILETS posts should be
censored from the group. Shamelessly. When they lost their
vote with more people voting to keep reading my posts, it
didn't matter, they still continued censoring my posts. What
the sheople members think isn't important as long as my
world-LETS message gets squelched. Think about that. They
had a vote on censoring me, lost, and still censor me
anyway. Of course, the members don't know that their vote to
keep reading has been ignored by the central controllers
with more and democracy on their minds. It really is
incredible though. A vote to censor my posts loses and they
just do it anyway. Like I've pointed out, the banksters have
installed friendly moles everywhere ready to do the dirty
deed only when necessary. Evidently, stopping Turmel from
speaking is enough to them to ignore the rights of their
reading members. Doesn't that tell you something? Despite
readers winning the vote to keep reading, the controllers
just censored their material anyway.
Doesn't matter, their doings will all come out some day. And
I can understand why Stephen's upset at my putting the WSF
participants on the spot. A thousand of them still have
active emails and have received these WSF posts. What's
their excuse the day they run into me and I ask they why
they didn't support WSF LETS after hearing about it in 2004
and 2005? The whole purpose is that I put those 1000
supposed anti-poverty activists on the spot and not having
done anything is their conviction for ineffectiveness or
perfidy.
Anyway, it's like Stephen has no alternative to offer to the
UNILETS as a solution to world ills. There's DeMeulenaere
pushing a local solution at a World Forum. Har har har har.
Flash the cash, bye bye trash.
Again, if anyone going wants to premier the TURMEL video,
focusing on the Tree, Water and Credit card of Life, here's
your chance to help shake up the WSF. As DeMeulenaere noted,
the banksters have noticed. Help shake up their world and
save ours. Help install WSF LETS until UNILETS day.
--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel 519-753-0645 USENET: can.politics
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