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 | | From: | Archimedes Plutonium | | Subject: | easiest way to solve Iran and North Korea nuclear threat; M.A.D. Fleet | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:38:48 -0600 |
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 | Looking at the 2nd term of the Bush administration I would say USA
politics is 15 years behind schedule.
IF a M.A.D. Fleet had been created in 1990 with the fall of the Berlin
Wall and had been in place to do action, then the M.A.D. Fleet would
have been mandatory to park off of Iraq in the 1990s and after SH had
fired upon the parked fleet would have been mandatory to regime change
Iraq not in 2003 but in about 1995. And when the M.A.D. Fleet regime
changes a rogue country, its soldiers remove themselves automatically
and requires the UN to stabilize the place, so that Iraq, if regime
changed in 1995 would now be about 3 or 4 smaller countries. And that is
the direction of Iraq today to become 3 or 4 smaller countries of Shia,
Kurd, Sunni etc. You cannot get a 2 year old toddler to be riding a Tour
de France bicycle, likewise for Bush's democratization of a primitive
social culture that is Iraq of today.
Back in 2001, the M.A.D. Fleet would have been parked off the coasts of
Pakistan and India and calmed those nuclear war threats to the point
where both Pakistan and India today would now be dismantling their
nuclear warheads. Reason: the M.A.D. Fleet instantly conveys to
countries that if they launch nuclear missiles then their entire country
is in scope of being annihilated and oblivion off the face of earth.
In a world where a M.A.D. Fleet exists and in operation is a world where
possession of nuclear weapons is a disadvantage and liability.
Back in 2003 when NorthKorea was nuclear saber rattling, the M.A.D.
Fleet would have parked off its coast and the dictator would have fired
upon the fleet and the fleet would have mandatorily regime changed North
Korea. If the M.A.D. Fleet had been created and operated then today,
North Korea would no longer have its dictator, and its people would be
free-er and North Korea would have no nuclear program.
Back in 2004 when Iran turned roguish over nuclear missile developement,
the M.A.D. Fleet would have parked nearby to Iran and the Iranians would
have fired on the Fleet or done some provoking of the Fleet to mandate a
regime change. Here in January of 2005 we would now be in the midst of
an Iranian regime change.
So it looks as though the Bush Administration is caught up in some
idealism of spreading democracy to places that are 50 years not ready
for democracy and not focused on the greatest instability of our times
--- nuclear detonation and nuclear proliferation.
With a M.A.D. Fleet contributed by most countries of its ships and
sailors and soldiers and aircraft, we have a body that fosters and
promotes nuclear disarmement and an end to the desire to develop nuclear
weapons. AS soon as the Berlin Wall came down, there should have been
the formation of a international M.A.D. Fleet.
And because the world is without a M.A.D. Fleet spells that the risk of
a nuclear war and nuclear contamination of the world environment is 90%
that this evil will happen. If a M.A.D. Fleet were in place and in
operation then the probabilities are 90% that we avoid a nuclear
nightmare.
We can all be hopeful, and who knows, perhaps the Bush administration
can wake up and call for the formation of a M.A.D. Fleet. But I doubt it
because those type of minds only learn after the evil tragedy occurs. It
takes a 11Sept01 for them to learn that terrorism is a big deal. It will
take something like a Pakistan and India to go up in a nuclear fireball
for the present governments around the globe to realize that they needed
a M.A.D. Fleet to decrease the desire of nuclear weapons.
But we still can hope...
Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
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| | From: | George Cox | | Subject: | Re: easiest way to solve Iran and North Korea nuclear threat; M.A.D. | | Date: | Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:53:13 +0000 (UTC) |
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| Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
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One Middle East country that _does_ have nuclear weapons is Israel. Do
you think that the USA should threaten Israel with a nuclear strike?
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| | From: | Archimedes Plutonium | | Subject: | Re: easiest way to solve Iran and North Korea nuclear threat; M.A.D. | | Date: | Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:01:35 -0600 |
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George Cox wrote:
> Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
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> One Middle East country that _does_ have nuclear weapons is Israel. Do
> you think that the USA should threaten Israel with a nuclear strike?
The M.A.D. Fleet will be composed of many countries in ships, planes,
army, navy, airforce. Although the USA will be a major contributor
especially with the nuclear subs.
Will the M.A.D. Fleet ever park off the coast of Israel? Not while there
are so many other urgent hotspots of Pakistan-India, NorthKorea and
especially Iran.
The whole idea of M.A.D. Fleet is to prevent any nuclear missile from
launching with a corollary that the Fleet inspires and motivates countries
to dismantle existing nuclear weapons and incentive for "have-nots" to
never start building a nuclear weapon. M.A.D. accomplishes all of that
because when the fleet is parked off the coast of a country, it can
annihilate the country, or regime change the country or do nothing.
If Pakistan had begun launching nuclear missiles in 2002 against India
with a M.A.D. Fleet parked nearby, then the Fleet would have mandatorily
annihilated the country of Pakistan. If the M.A.D. Fleet had existed in
1997 parked off of Iraq and the Iraqis shot down a Fleet airplane would
have mandated a regime change inside of Iraq. So it would have saved the
western world and spared it of the obnoxious reasons for going to war in
Iraq which we endlessly have to hear day after day.
If the M.A.D. Fleet had existed in 2003 with NorthKorea building a nuclear
weapon would have parked the fleet off the coast of NorthKorea. And if
NorthKorea launched a nuclear weapon then the entire country would be
annihilated by the M.A.D. Fleet. If NorthKorea had provoked the Fleet then
there would have been a regime change in NorthKorea, even though it would
have been a bloody affair and thousands killed, perhaps millions. But the
world can not afford to be lax or relax with nuclear threats.
Would the Fleet ever park off of Israel? I would think so provided Israel
did not contribute her nuclear weapons to the Fleet itself, because there
is no reason for Israel to own nuclear weapons.
So the Fleet is sort of the world-cop on the issue of nuclear weapons. It
forces countries that do not have nuclear weapons to never want to build
one for fear the Fleet will park off the coast and regime change. And for
those countries already in possession of nuclear makes them at risk to be
annihilated should they launch nuclear.
The reason the US and USSR never nuked each other was the fear of M.A.D.
(mutually assured destruction) during the Cold War from 1950 to 1990. But
when the Berlin Wall came down and the Cold War ended in 1990, we have
been naked without that insurance policy of a M.A.D. mechanism to put some
sanity into nuclear weapons building and nuclear weapons launching.
When the world has an operative M.A.D. Fleet there is no reason for
Pakistan, for India, for Israel to have nuclear weapons and they can
contribute what they do have to the M.A.D. Fleet itself.
Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
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| | From: | coranto at hotmail.com | | Subject: | Re: easiest way to solve Iran and North Korea nuclear threat; M.A.D. Fleet | | Date: | 20 Jan 2005 10:45:06 -0800 |
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George Cox wrote:
> Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
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> One Middle East country that _does_ have nuclear weapons is Israel.
Do
> you think that the USA should threaten Israel with a nuclear strike?
Vice versa!
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