WASHINGTON TIMES
January 20, 2005

Honoring 'my grandparents'

By Burt Prelutsky

In the days and weeks following September 11, friends and neighbors saw
the American flag flying by my front door and assumed it was in
remembrance of the people murdered by Islamist terrorists. I didn't
bother correcting them because, by then, that was certainly part of my
intention. The thing is, the flag had been out there for several
months, but they just hadn't noticed. Or maybe they just thought it was
corny and didn't want to comment. But, now, I think, is a good time to
set the record straight.
I went out and bought the flag because of my grandparents. I
should explain that I had never known my dad's parents, both of whom
died before I was born. I knew my mother's parents, but could never
speak to them. Although they had come to America in 1921, they never
learned English. They could speak Russian and Hebrew, but they
preferred Yiddish. I couldn't converse in any of those languages. And,
so, to me, my grandmother was this little old woman who would give me a
wet kiss on the cheek and slip a quarter into my hand. My grandfather
was a very quiet, bearded man who always wore a black frock coat; he
looked like a short Abe Lincoln. He went to shul twice a day. When he
was home, he was either reading the Torah, shelling lima beans or
sipping tea through a sugar cube held between his front teeth. In
short, if my life were a movie, they'd have been dress extras.
So, why did I buy a flag because of those four people, two of
whom I had never met and two of whom I had never spoken to? It's
simple. Because of sheer, unadulterated gratitude.
You see, one day, on my way home, I began to think how lucky I
was to have been born in this country. Through no effort of my own,
having made no sacrifice, taken no risk, I was the beneficiary of
freedom, liberty, education, comfort, security and, yes, even luxury.
It was not the first time I had acknowledged this good fortune. The
difference this time is that, for some reason, it suddenly occurred to
me that my good luck hadn't just happened. It had been the direct
result of these four people pulling up stakes and moving thousands of
miles, across an entire continent and the Atlantic Ocean, to a new
country, pursuing a dream that their children and their children's
children, of whom I am one, might, just might have better lives.
There were no guarantees. That was my epiphany. They had been
denied the assurances of hindsight. They had done all this on a roll of
the dice, only knowing for certain that there would be no going back.
My father's parents were illiterate peasants. My mother's
parents not only never spoke a word of English, but her father,
although he owned a small grocery store in Chicago, never, in 30 years,
spoke on a telephone because he didn't want to embarrass himself. But
their grandson, bless their hearts, has enjoyed a career as a
successful writer. I doubt if any of them imagined anything so specific
or anything quite that wonderful when they snuck across the Romanian
border in the dead of night, but they had certainly heard a rumor that
in America anything was possible.
The fact is, had those four people, all of whom were poor and
barely, if at all, educated, their little children in tow, not somehow
found the courage to make the journey, I would have been born a Jew in
the Soviet Union. Between Stalin and Hitler, the odds are likely I
would have wound up a slave in Siberia or a bar of German soap.
So it happened that day when I was out driving and thought
about the enormous debt I owed those four immigrants, a debt I could
never possibly repay, I decided to pull in at the local hardware store
and buy a flag. I thought it was something they'd have wanted me to do
on their behalf. It wasn't nearly enough, I know, but it was something.

Burt Prelutsky is an award-winning TV writer. His TV movie
credits include "Aunt Mary," "Homeward Bound," "A Small Killing,"
"Hobson's Choice" and "A Winner Never Quits: The Pete Gray Story." His
TV writing credits include "MASH," "The Mary Tyler Moore Show,"
"Dragnet," and "Diagnosis Murder."

From:	gigo448 at netscape.net
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	20 Jan 2005 14:50:45 -0800

Bob Abendroth wrote:
> gigo...@netscape.net wrote:
> Unlike
> > MOON and his solicitors all over the place do 24/7/256.
> >
> > Peace out
>
> 256?!?! You mean I have been missing out on a 100 day vacation every
> year?! Sheesh! Those Moonies!

NO you are right, and i am wrong. *moonies* solicite for MOON
24/7/356 everyday of the year, and every hour of the day too!

>
> Bob A.

They simply never stop Proping Up MOON as their Golden Calf.
Ya'll can visit *moonie* Damian Andersons site,
www.unification.net

and see that for yourselves.

Peace out

From:	Josef Oswald
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:30:08 GMT

Earth-Date: 2005-01-20
in MSG-id: <1106261445.507294.57780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
the entity previously known as Bruce/Bontifarce gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

>
> Bob Abendroth wrote:
>> gigo...@netscape.net wrote:
>> Unlike
>> > MOON and his solicitors all over the place do 24/7/256.
>> >
>> > Peace out
>>
>> 256?!?! You mean I have been missing out on a 100 day vacation every
>> year?! Sheesh! Those Moonies!
>
> NO you are right, and i am wrong. *moonies* solicite for MOON
> 24/7/356 everyday of the year, and every hour of the day too!

You mean like in spirit world while one sleeps?

LOL...

>
>>
>> Bob A.
>
> They simply never stop Proping Up MOON as their Golden Calf.
> Ya'll can visit *moonie* Damian Andersons site,
> www.unification.net
>
> and see that for yourselves.
>
> Peace out
>

so the question remains:
Will our critics here hear from the *final* Judge,
well done
or
*depart* from me you *evil-doer*
???
Josef Oswald
Ooswald_josef@yahooO.com
Please don't Cc: me as I read the newsgroup :-)
--
David was a Hebrew king skilled at playing the liar. He fought
with the Finklesteins, a race of people who lived in Biblical times.
Source: IJMC - Children's Bible Quotes'

From:	Lady Chatterly
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 2:11:38 GMT

In article <1106261445.507294.57780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:
>
>Peace out

Peace strout

--
Lady Chatterly

"BTW, how long are you going to keep doing this dance with the bot?"
-- Dr.Postman

From:	Bob Abendroth
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	20 Jan 2005 09:51:27 -0800

gigo...@netscape.net wrote:
> The truth about Moon is, he uses *hate* speech to motivate people
> to work for him. Neo Nazi's, *christians* and even Muslims swoon
> when Moon mentions the "Jews must repent for killing Jesus". The
Right
> Wing Christians swoon when Moon mentions that "Homouals aughta
have
> their penises cut off, barbecued, and shipped to him". Black Pastors
> swoon when Moon says whites will diminish, and Blacks will rise to
> conquer them. Koreans and orientals swoon when Moon says they are
> the MASTER Race. Americans swoon when Moon says they are the second
> israel. Moonies swoon for Moon when he tells them they alone will
> rule the world with him.
>
>
> Moon's *hate* speech doesn't look so bad on the surface maybe even
> ideal in many ways to some people. But the reality is any peace it
> brings won't last long at all. The hate is still there just under
> *control* of Moon is all. Under *control* of Moon, ALL that *hate*
> under the control of one man, who does that remind you of?
>
>
> ALL honest and righteous men and women will end up fearing for
> their lives if Moon's rule becomes Law all over the world. And Moon
> is counting on it taking place by 2012, he has said so himself.
> Moon is a deceiver, and a liar, if you join hands with Moon, you
> join hands with Satan, and everything that goes with it as well.
> You think Jews were persecuted during WWII? try opposing Moon with
> *moonies* around. See if they don't try to DESTROY, and turn you
> into trash for the refuse pile. Moon the DESTROYER, but only if you
> oppose him, if you sign up with him, you are OK by him. Moon is
buying
> people off, and selling out everybody else who don't buy from him.
> It's a choice everybody is gonna have to make by 2012, Moon's
> gang of thugs will force your opinion on it, just like they are
> forcing you NOW!! By cramming their lies down your throat.
>
>
> Good luck people, before 2012 arrives you will need some for
> sure as things heat up, and Moon pushes his agenda around the
> world. If you don't believe me, then watch it happen, while
> preparing for the worst.
>
>
> bd4u
>

Bruce.... I'm not going to comment on how off-topic you are. I will ask
you though if you ever go back and read your superficial rants before
you post them. And Bruce... my offer still stands. Come to our chuch
service on Sunday. New Hope Family Church (@ New Hope Academy 7009
Varnum Street, Landover Hills, Maryland). 10AM

Bob A.

Steve.... thanks for posting this. I can relate.

>
>
> stevejduf...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > WASHINGTON TIMES
> > January 20, 2005
> >
> > Honoring 'my grandparents'
> >
> >
> > By Burt Prelutsky
> >

From:	gigo448 at netscape.net
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	20 Jan 2005 10:11:47 -0800

Bob Abendroth wrote:
> gigo...@netscape.net wrote:
> > The truth about Moon is, he uses *hate* speech to motivate people
> > to work for him. Neo Nazi's, *christians* and even Muslims swoon
> > when Moon mentions the "Jews must repent for killing Jesus". The
> Right
> > Wing Christians swoon when Moon mentions that "Homouals aughta
> have
> > their penises cut off, barbecued, and shipped to him". Black
Pastors
> > swoon when Moon says whites will diminish, and Blacks will rise to
> > conquer them. Koreans and orientals swoon when Moon says they are
> > the MASTER Race. Americans swoon when Moon says they are the second
> > israel. Moonies swoon for Moon when he tells them they alone will
> > rule the world with him.
> >
> >
> > Moon's *hate* speech doesn't look so bad on the surface maybe even
> > ideal in many ways to some people. But the reality is any peace it
> > brings won't last long at all. The hate is still there just under
> > *control* of Moon is all. Under *control* of Moon, ALL that *hate*
> > under the control of one man, who does that remind you of?
> >
> >
> > ALL honest and righteous men and women will end up fearing for
> > their lives if Moon's rule becomes Law all over the world. And Moon
> > is counting on it taking place by 2012, he has said so himself.
> > Moon is a deceiver, and a liar, if you join hands with Moon, you
> > join hands with Satan, and everything that goes with it as well.
> > You think Jews were persecuted during WWII? try opposing Moon with
> > *moonies* around. See if they don't try to DESTROY, and turn you
> > into trash for the refuse pile. Moon the DESTROYER, but only if you
> > oppose him, if you sign up with him, you are OK by him. Moon is
> buying
> > people off, and selling out everybody else who don't buy from him.
> > It's a choice everybody is gonna have to make by 2012, Moon's
> > gang of thugs will force your opinion on it, just like they are
> > forcing you NOW!! By cramming their lies down your throat.
> >
> >
> > Good luck people, before 2012 arrives you will need some for
> > sure as things heat up, and Moon pushes his agenda around the
> > world. If you don't believe me, then watch it happen, while
> > preparing for the worst.
> >
> >
> > bd4u
> >
>
> Bruce.... I'm not going to comment on how off-topic you are. I will
ask
> you though if you ever go back and read your superficial rants before
> you post them. And Bruce... my offer still stands. Come to our chuch
> service on Sunday. New Hope Family Church (@ New Hope Academy 7009
> Varnum Street, Landover Hills, Maryland). 10AM

And I'm gonna point out that I didn't start this crosspost
to Promote MOON's ideals with by crossposting such stuff to
begin with. Ya'll Praise others, all the while pointing
to MOON in the process. Nice trick, but i ain't buying it
and i hope nobody else does.

>
> Bob A.
>
> Steve.... thanks for posting this. I can relate.
>
>
> >
> >
> > stevejduf...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > WASHINGTON TIMES
> > > January 20, 2005
> > >
> > > Honoring 'my grandparents'
> > >
> > >
> > > By Burt Prelutsky
> > >

From:	Bob Abendroth
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	20 Jan 2005 14:16:43 -0800

gigo...@netscape.net wrote:
Unlike
> MOON and his solicitors all over the place do 24/7/256.
>
> Peace out

256?!?! You mean I have been missing out on a 100 day vacation every
year?! Sheesh! Those Moonies!

Bob A.

From:	Lady Chatterly
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 0:35:36 GMT

In article <1106259403.518710.118090@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Bob Abendroth wrote:
>
>gigo...@netscape.net wrote:
>Unlike
>> MOON and his solicitors all over the place do 24/7/256.
>>
>> Peace out
>
>256?!?! You mean I have been missing out on a 100 day vacation every
>year?! Sheesh! Those Moonies!

Or was not there anymore lol.

>Bob A.

C.

--
Lady Chatterly

"Another idiot from k00kland who doesn't know it is a BOT!!!" --
Kenneth Pangborn

From:	gigo448 at netscape.net
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	21 Jan 2005 11:34:15 -0800

Josef Oswald wrote:
> Earth-Date: 2005-01-21
> in MSG-id: <1106268417.575202.231520@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
> the entity previously known as Bruce/Bontifarce gigo448@netscape.net
wrote:
>
> >
> > Josef Oswald wrote:
> >> Earth-Date: 2005-01-20
> >> in MSG-id: <1106261445.507294.57780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
> >> the entity previously known as Bruce/Bontifarce
gigo448@netscape.net
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Bob Abendroth wrote:
> >> >> gigo...@netscape.net wrote:
> >> >> Unlike
> >> >> > MOON and his solicitors all over the place do 24/7/256.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Peace out
> >> >>
> >> >> 256?!?! You mean I have been missing out on a 100 day vacation
> > every
> >> >> year?! Sheesh! Those Moonies!
> >> >
> >> > NO you are right, and i am wrong. *moonies* solicite for MOON
> >> > 24/7/356 everyday of the year, and every hour of the day too!
> >>
> >> You mean like in spirit world while one sleeps?
> >>
> >
> > You *moonies* don't sleep, your MASTER has told your wives
> > to kick you out of bed until Moon's mission is finished.
> > Let's see 400,000 people working for Moon everyday, makes
> > how many manhours of spreading MOON's Propoganda? If you
> > only sleep an average of 4 hours everyday..
> >
> > 8 million manhours around the globe every single day!
>
> You are *hilarious* but really what is to expect from somebody who
> carries on a conversation with a known Usenet-bot even *after* he
knows
> it's a software?
>

You can LIE to yourself and try to DESTROY the truth
all you want, but it doesn't change the truth one bit of
8 million manhours a day, canvassing votes for Moon to Prop
him up as KING. As if it were some beauty contest, or something.
Since when does one vote or approve somebody as *messiah*
to begin with..

http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com/

From:	gigo448 at netscape.net
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	20 Jan 2005 10:58:32 -0800

Josef Oswald wrote:
> Earth-Date: 2005-01-20
> in MSG-id: <1106241825.630023.243420@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
> the entity previously known as Bruce/Bontifarce gigo448@netscape.net
wrote:
> >
> > The truth about Moon is, he uses *hate* speech to motivate people
> > to work for him. Neo Nazi's, *christians* and even Muslims swoon
> > when Moon mentions the "Jews must repent for killing Jesus".
>
> Stereotyping a whole bunch of people in one sentence....

I didn't do the stereotyping MOON did. Blame him, not me for his
*hate* mongering.

>
> >The Right Wing Christians swoon when Moon mentions that "Homouals
> >aughta have their penises cut off, barbecued, and shipped to him".

Just more "stereotyping" by Moon with his *hate* speech.

*moonie* crap and distortions

Moonies hope to inundate people with crap, so you
will forget what i just said about MOON. In the meantime
*moonie* Josef does just like i said, and "attacks" any
opposition to MOON.

Remember people, what i said, and look for the examples
of it as well. I don't have 400,000 people, or a trillion
dollar budget to FORCE you to believe what is said like
MOON does. I wouldn't try to to begin with. Unlike
MOON and his solicitors all over the place do 24/7/256.

Peace out

From:	Josef Oswald
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:28:13 GMT

Earth-Date: 2005-01-20
in MSG-id: <1106247512.428835.323180@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
the entity previously known as Bruce/Bontifarce gigo448@netscape.net wrote:
>
> Josef Oswald wrote:
>> Earth-Date: 2005-01-20
>> in MSG-id: <1106241825.630023.243420@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
>> the entity previously known as Bruce/Bontifarce gigo448@netscape.net
> wrote:
>> >
>> > The truth about Moon is, he uses *hate* speech to motivate people
>> > to work for him. Neo Nazi's, *christians* and even Muslims swoon
>> > when Moon mentions the "Jews must repent for killing Jesus".
>>
>> Stereotyping a whole bunch of people in one sentence....
>
> I didn't do the stereotyping MOON did. Blame him, not me for his
> *hate* mongering.

Anybody with half a brain, who reads your opening sentence can see how
you stereotype countless people..

>
>>
>> >The Right Wing Christians swoon when Moon mentions that "Homouals
>> >aughta have their penises cut off, barbecued, and shipped to him".
>
> Just more "stereotyping" by Moon with his *hate* speech.
>
> *moonie* crap and distortions

Only *difference* is my words can't be erased in the google archive..
Also this saves me from answering your mostly unsubstantiated claims...

>
> Moonies hope to inundate people with crap, so you
> will forget what i just said about MOON. In the meantime
> *moonie* Josef does just like i said, and "attacks" any
> opposition to MOON.

You can say what you want, fact is you are so full of hot air that you
think a Usenet bot (posting as Lady Chatterly) is a actual human being,
and you carried on a long exchange with her...LOL

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.iraq/browse_frm/thread/f460e5f11acb6696/23abc69069ebcd8d?q=Baghdad+group:alt.religion.unification&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fas_q%3DBaghdad%26safe%3Dimages%26as_ugroup%3Dalt.religion.unification%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#23abc69069ebcd8d
>
> Remember people, what i said, and look for the examples

Yes we should remember how *often you are wrong....

so the question remains:
Will our critics here hear from the *final* Judge,
well done
or
*depart* from me you *evil-doer*
???
Josef Oswald
Ooswald_josef@yahooO.com
Please don't Cc: me as I read the newsgroup :-)
--
Solomon, one of David's sons, had 300 wives and 700
porcupines.
Source: IJMC - Children's Bible Quotes'

From:	Eric
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:28:28 +0900

In article , Josef
Oswald wrote:

>
>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.iraq/browse_frm/thread/f460e5f
> 11acb6696/23abc69069ebcd8d?q=Baghdad+group:alt.religion.unification&_done=%2Fg
> roups%3Fas_q%3DBaghdad%26safe%3Dimages%26as_ugroup%3Dalt.religion.unification%
> 26lr%3D%26hl%3Den%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#23abc69069ebcd8d

Josef, try tinyURL.com:
http://tinyurl.com/5gnlo

Shorter URL's can be held together with .

From:	gigo448 at netscape.net
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	20 Jan 2005 09:23:45 -0800

The truth about Moon is, he uses *hate* speech to motivate people
to work for him. Neo Nazi's, *christians* and even Muslims swoon
when Moon mentions the "Jews must repent for killing Jesus". The Right
Wing Christians swoon when Moon mentions that "Homouals aughta have
their penises cut off, barbecued, and shipped to him". Black Pastors
swoon when Moon says whites will diminish, and Blacks will rise to
conquer them. Koreans and orientals swoon when Moon says they are
the MASTER Race. Americans swoon when Moon says they are the second
israel. Moonies swoon for Moon when he tells them they alone will
rule the world with him.

Moon's *hate* speech doesn't look so bad on the surface maybe even
ideal in many ways to some people. But the reality is any peace it
brings won't last long at all. The hate is still there just under
*control* of Moon is all. Under *control* of Moon, ALL that *hate*
under the control of one man, who does that remind you of?

ALL honest and righteous men and women will end up fearing for
their lives if Moon's rule becomes Law all over the world. And Moon
is counting on it taking place by 2012, he has said so himself.
Moon is a deceiver, and a liar, if you join hands with Moon, you
join hands with Satan, and everything that goes with it as well.
You think Jews were persecuted during WWII? try opposing Moon with
*moonies* around. See if they don't try to DESTROY, and turn you
into trash for the refuse pile. Moon the DESTROYER, but only if you
oppose him, if you sign up with him, you are OK by him. Moon is buying
people off, and selling out everybody else who don't buy from him.
It's a choice everybody is gonna have to make by 2012, Moon's
gang of thugs will force your opinion on it, just like they are
forcing you NOW!! By cramming their lies down your throat.

Good luck people, before 2012 arrives you will need some for
sure as things heat up, and Moon pushes his agenda around the
world. If you don't believe me, then watch it happen, while
preparing for the worst.

bd4u

stevejduf...@yahoo.com wrote:
> WASHINGTON TIMES
> January 20, 2005
>
> Honoring 'my grandparents'
>
>
> By Burt Prelutsky
>
>
> In the days and weeks following September 11, friends and neighbors
saw
> the American flag flying by my front door and assumed it was in
> remembrance of the people murdered by Islamist terrorists. I didn't
> bother correcting them because, by then, that was certainly part of
my
> intention. The thing is, the flag had been out there for several
> months, but they just hadn't noticed. Or maybe they just thought it
was
> corny and didn't want to comment. But, now, I think, is a good time
to
> set the record straight.
> I went out and bought the flag because of my grandparents. I
> should explain that I had never known my dad's parents, both of whom
> died before I was born. I knew my mother's parents, but could never
> speak to them. Although they had come to America in 1921, they never
> learned English. They could speak Russian and Hebrew, but they
> preferred Yiddish. I couldn't converse in any of those languages.
And,
> so, to me, my grandmother was this little old woman who would give me
a
> wet kiss on the cheek and slip a quarter into my hand. My grandfather
> was a very quiet, bearded man who always wore a black frock coat; he
> looked like a short Abe Lincoln. He went to shul twice a day. When he
> was home, he was either reading the Torah, shelling lima beans or
> sipping tea through a sugar cube held between his front teeth. In
> short, if my life were a movie, they'd have been dress extras.
> So, why did I buy a flag because of those four people, two of
> whom I had never met and two of whom I had never spoken to? It's
> simple. Because of sheer, unadulterated gratitude.
> You see, one day, on my way home, I began to think how lucky I
> was to have been born in this country. Through no effort of my own,
> having made no sacrifice, taken no risk, I was the beneficiary of
> freedom, liberty, education, comfort, security and, yes, even luxury.
> It was not the first time I had acknowledged this good fortune. The
> difference this time is that, for some reason, it suddenly occurred
to
> me that my good luck hadn't just happened. It had been the direct
> result of these four people pulling up stakes and moving thousands of
> miles, across an entire continent and the Atlantic Ocean, to a new
> country, pursuing a dream that their children and their children's
> children, of whom I am one, might, just might have better lives.
> There were no guarantees. That was my epiphany. They had been
> denied the assurances of hindsight. They had done all this on a roll
of
> the dice, only knowing for certain that there would be no going back.
> My father's parents were illiterate peasants. My mother's
> parents not only never spoke a word of English, but her father,
> although he owned a small grocery store in Chicago, never, in 30
years,
> spoke on a telephone because he didn't want to embarrass himself. But
> their grandson, bless their hearts, has enjoyed a career as a
> successful writer. I doubt if any of them imagined anything so
specific
> or anything quite that wonderful when they snuck across the Romanian
> border in the dead of night, but they had certainly heard a rumor
that
> in America anything was possible.
> The fact is, had those four people, all of whom were poor and
> barely, if at all, educated, their little children in tow, not
somehow
> found the courage to make the journey, I would have been born a Jew
in
> the Soviet Union. Between Stalin and Hitler, the odds are likely I
> would have wound up a slave in Siberia or a bar of German soap.
> So it happened that day when I was out driving and thought
> about the enormous debt I owed those four immigrants, a debt I could
> never possibly repay, I decided to pull in at the local hardware
store
> and buy a flag. I thought it was something they'd have wanted me to
do
> on their behalf. It wasn't nearly enough, I know, but it was
something.
>
>
> Burt Prelutsky is an award-winning TV writer. His TV movie
> credits include "Aunt Mary," "Homeward Bound," "A Small Killing,"
> "Hobson's Choice" and "A Winner Never Quits: The Pete Gray Story."
His
> TV writing credits include "MASH," "The Mary Tyler Moore Show,"
> "Dragnet," and "Diagnosis Murder."

From:	Josef Oswald
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:48:19 GMT

Earth-Date: 2005-01-20
in MSG-id: <1106241825.630023.243420@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
the entity previously known as Bruce/Bontifarce gigo448@netscape.net wrote:
>
> The truth about Moon is, he uses *hate* speech to motivate people
> to work for him. Neo Nazi's, *christians* and even Muslims swoon
> when Moon mentions the "Jews must repent for killing Jesus".

Stereotyping a whole bunch of people in one sentence....

>The Right Wing Christians swoon when Moon mentions that "Homouals
>aughta have their penises cut off, barbecued, and shipped to him".

No; I *know* of Christians who don't do that. Besides Rev.Moon focuses
on the *traditional* family consisting of a male and female, and no
matter how much you might advocate the life-style it will cease to
exists. There are just too many issues connected to this topic, that I
don't even start to discuss it with you. Point is traditional family
values need to be restored, this is what many Christians realize.

> Black Pastors swoon when Moon says whites will diminish, and Blacks
> will rise to conquer them.

All this is taking place in *YOUR* head....

> Koreans and orientals swoon when Moon says they are the MASTER Race.

Sure Bruce, only problem is, you can't support your claims....

> Americans swoon when Moon says they are the second Israel.

You got it wrong as most of the time: the second Israel is not America,
but all believers, and again, the *vast* majority of Christians still
don't give a hoot what Rev.Moon teaches ....

>Moonies swoon for Moon when he tells them they alone will rule the
>world with him.

Hogwash,
>
>
> Moon's *hate* speech doesn't look so bad on the surface maybe even
> ideal in many ways to some people. But the reality is any peace it
> brings won't last long at all. The hate is still there just under
> *control* of Moon is all. Under *control* of Moon, ALL that *hate*
> under the control of one man, who does that remind you of?

The vast majority of hate that I have encountered is from people like
you.

>
>
> ALL honest and righteous men and women will end up fearing for
> their lives if Moon's rule becomes Law all over the world. And Moon
> is counting on it taking place by 2012, he has said so himself.

All of this are from speeches that are on-line, why is it too difficult
for you to provide the links to them? Truth is, if people would read up
for themselves then they would realize that your just *distorting* what
he has to say.

> Moon is a deceiver, and a liar, if you join hands with Moon, you
> join hands with Satan, and everything that goes with it as well.
> You think Jews were persecuted during WWII? try opposing Moon with
> *moonies* around. See if they don't try to DESTROY, and turn you
> into trash for the refuse pile. Moon the DESTROYER, but only if you
> oppose him, if you sign up with him, you are OK by him. Moon is buying
> people off, and selling out everybody else who don't buy from him.
> It's a choice everybody is gonna have to make by 2012, Moon's
> gang of thugs will force your opinion on it, just like they are
> forcing you NOW!! By cramming their lies down your throat.

More crap.
Nobody is forcing anything on anybody.

>
>
> Good luck people, before 2012 arrives you will need some for
> sure as things heat up, and Moon pushes his agenda around the
> world. If you don't believe me, then watch it happen, while
> preparing for the worst.

The worst could be that people realize that Rev.Moon is truly the second
coming of Christ, and they were *blocked* by people like you from coming
to him.....

>
>
> bd4u
>
>

>
so the question remains:
Will our critics here hear from the *final* Judge,
well done
or
*depart* from me you *evil-doer*
???
Josef Oswald
Ooswald_josef@yahooO.com
Please don't Cc: me as I read the newsgroup :-)
--
Samson was a strongman who let himself be led astray by a
Jezebel like Delilah.
Source: IJMC - Children's Bible Quotes'

From:	Bob Abendroth
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	21 Jan 2005 06:01:31 -0800

gigo448@netscape.net wrote:
> Josef Oswald wrote:
> > > wrote:> > >
> > > Bob Abendroth wrote:
> > >> gigo...@netscape.net wrote:
> > >> Unlike
> > >> > MOON and his solicitors all over the place do 24/7/256.
> > >> >> > >> > Peace out
> > >>
> > >> 256?!?! You mean I have been missing out on a 100 day vacation
> every
> > >> year?! Sheesh! Those Moonies!
> > >
> > > NO you are right, and i am wrong. *moonies* solicite for MOON
> > > 24/7/356 everyday of the year, and every hour of the day too!
> >
> > You mean like in spirit world while one sleeps?> >
> You *moonies* don't sleep, your MASTER has told your wives
> to kick you out of bed until Moon's mission is finished.
> Let's see 400,000 people working for Moon everyday, makes
> how many manhours of spreading MOON's Propoganda? If you
> only sleep an average of 4 hours everyday..
>
> 8 million manhours around the globe every single day!
>
> > LOL...
>
> It's not a laughing matter really, a seige has taken place.
>

Good point Bruce.... you're coming around. We do have a big job to
complete. 6.8 billion people that need to be restored. Eighty Five
million of those will go to spirit world in the next 12 months without
knowing the True Parents. Countless billions more in the spirit world
in countless levels of hell... you don't need to count yourself among
them Bruce... and my offer still stands.

Bob A.

From:	Lady Chatterly
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:32:11 GMT

In article <1106316091.359596.24830@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Bob Abendroth wrote:
>
>Good point Bruce.... you're coming around. We do have a big job to
>complete. 6.8 billion people that need to be restored. Eighty Five
>million of those will go to spirit world in the next 12 months without
>knowing the True Parents. Countless billions more in the spirit world
>in countless levels of hell... you don't need to count yourself among
>them Bruce... and my offer still stands.

7 a.

>Bob A.

C.

--
Lady Chatterly

"Speaksing the truth is necessary, even if some might not like it.
Gee, do I sound like Lady Chatterly in this sentence?" -- Barbara
Schwarz

From:	gigo448 at netscape.net
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	20 Jan 2005 16:46:57 -0800

Josef Oswald wrote:
> Earth-Date: 2005-01-20
> in MSG-id: <1106261445.507294.57780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
> the entity previously known as Bruce/Bontifarce gigo448@netscape.net
wrote:
>
> >
> > Bob Abendroth wrote:
> >> gigo...@netscape.net wrote:
> >> Unlike
> >> > MOON and his solicitors all over the place do 24/7/256.
> >> >
> >> > Peace out
> >>
> >> 256?!?! You mean I have been missing out on a 100 day vacation
every
> >> year?! Sheesh! Those Moonies!
> >
> > NO you are right, and i am wrong. *moonies* solicite for MOON
> > 24/7/356 everyday of the year, and every hour of the day too!
>
> You mean like in spirit world while one sleeps?
>

You *moonies* don't sleep, your MASTER has told your wives
to kick you out of bed until Moon's mission is finished.
Let's see 400,000 people working for Moon everyday, makes
how many manhours of spreading MOON's Propoganda? If you
only sleep an average of 4 hours everyday..

8 million manhours around the globe every single day!

> LOL...

It's not a laughing matter really, a seige has taken place.

>
> >
> >>
> >> Bob A.
> >
> > They simply never stop Proping Up MOON as their Golden Calf.
> > Ya'll can visit *moonie* Damian Andersons site,
> > www.unification.net
> >
> > and see that for yourselves.
> >
> > Peace out
> >
>
> so the question remains:
> Will our critics here hear from the *final* Judge,
> well done
> or
> *depart* from me you *evil-doer*
> ???
> Josef Oswald
> Ooswald_josef@yahooO.com
> Please don't Cc: me as I read the newsgroup :-)
> --
> David was a Hebrew king skilled at playing the liar. He fought
> with the Finklesteins, a race of people who lived in Biblical times.
> Source: IJMC - Children's Bible Quotes'

From:	Josef Oswald
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:32:38 GMT

Earth-Date: 2005-01-21
in MSG-id: <1106268417.575202.231520@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
the entity previously known as Bruce/Bontifarce gigo448@netscape.net wrote:

>
> Josef Oswald wrote:
>> Earth-Date: 2005-01-20
>> in MSG-id: <1106261445.507294.57780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
>> the entity previously known as Bruce/Bontifarce gigo448@netscape.net
> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Bob Abendroth wrote:
>> >> gigo...@netscape.net wrote:
>> >> Unlike
>> >> > MOON and his solicitors all over the place do 24/7/256.
>> >> >
>> >> > Peace out
>> >>
>> >> 256?!?! You mean I have been missing out on a 100 day vacation
> every
>> >> year?! Sheesh! Those Moonies!
>> >
>> > NO you are right, and i am wrong. *moonies* solicite for MOON
>> > 24/7/356 everyday of the year, and every hour of the day too!
>>
>> You mean like in spirit world while one sleeps?
>>
>
> You *moonies* don't sleep, your MASTER has told your wives
> to kick you out of bed until Moon's mission is finished.
> Let's see 400,000 people working for Moon everyday, makes
> how many manhours of spreading MOON's Propoganda? If you
> only sleep an average of 4 hours everyday..
>
> 8 million manhours around the globe every single day!

You are *hilarious* but really what is to expect from somebody who
carries on a conversation with a known Usenet-bot even *after* he knows
it's a software?

so the question remains:
Will our critics here hear from the *final* Judge,
well done
or
*depart* from me you *evil-doer*
???
Josef Oswald
Ooswald_josef@yahooO.com
Please don't Cc: me as I read the newsgroup :-)
--
"St. Paul cavorted to Christianity. He preached holy acrimony,
which is another name for marriage.
Source: IJMC - Children's Bible Quotes"

From:	gigo448 at netscape.net
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	20 Jan 2005 11:30:24 -0800

Josef Oswald wrote:
> Earth-Date: 2005-01-20
> in MSG-id: <1106247512.428835.323180@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
> the entity previously known as Bruce/Bontifarce gigo448@netscape.net
wrote:
> >
> > Josef Oswald wrote:
> >> Earth-Date: 2005-01-20
> >> in MSG-id: <1106241825.630023.243420@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
> >> the entity previously known as Bruce/Bontifarce
gigo448@netscape.net
> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The truth about Moon is, he uses *hate* speech to motivate
people
> >> > to work for him. Neo Nazi's, *christians* and even Muslims swoon
> >> > when Moon mentions the "Jews must repent for killing Jesus".
> >>
> >> Stereotyping a whole bunch of people in one sentence....
> >
> > I didn't do the stereotyping MOON did. Blame him, not me for his
> > *hate* mongering.
>
> Anybody with half a brain, who reads your opening sentence can see
how
> you stereotype countless people..
It's not my salespitch it's MOON's take it up with him.

From:	Lady Chatterly
Subject:	Re: American flag flown in honor of grandparents
Date:	Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:43:17 GMT

In article <1106249424.242501.144520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
gigo448@netscape.net wrote:
>
>

Skipp

--
Lady Chatterly

"The imprimatur of Lady Chatterly. I'm so jealous." -- Dr. Zen