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 | | From: | Joseph H | | Subject: | A CHARTER FOR HUMANITY - 2 | | Date: | 22 Jan 2005 14:19:12 -0800 |
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 | Building up.....constructing on the basis of what we know instead of what we believe or what we are told or what is foisted or forced upon us. We arrive on this planet with a certain sum of abilities and tendencies. All of these must be hard-wired. Every ability that we have must be matched by a brain-function. (I did not say every deed; every ability). Even freedom fits into this description since the capacity to act and to think and to decide independently must be part of our genetic legacy. We are entitled to the full exercise of our genetic legacy as long as this exercise occurs within the permitted bounds of society. There is an ambiguity there, of course, and part of our task is to decide these boundaries. Certainly, any such decision is better informed by knowledge of our innate capacities than lack of knowledge of same. Our history is a record of defilement of our genetic legacy. There were many reasons for this: ignorance, of course; othodoxy, belief, myth, coercion, empire, privation, necessity....but now, as I say in another current posting, we are due the truth - mainly because we now know more of the truth, are more free, more enlightened.
Joseph H
www.humanisation.org
OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE THE TRUTH
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 | | From: | Christopher A. Lee | | Subject: | Re: A CHARTER FOR HUMANITY - 2 | | Date: | Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:26:59 -0500 |
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 | On 22 Jan 2005 14:19:12 -0800, joseph@humanisation.org (Joseph H) wrote:
>Building up.....constructing on the basis of what we know instead of >what we believe or what we are told or what is foisted or forced upon >us. >We arrive on this planet with a certain sum of abilities and >tendencies. All of these must be hard-wired. Every ability that we >have must be matched by a brain-function. (I did not say every deed; >every ability). Even freedom fits into this description since the >capacity to act and to think and to decide independently must be part >of our genetic legacy.
Some might be hard wired at birth. Most aren't. We are born with a capacity to absorb programming, which we learn in our formative years. These become almost hard-wired, and form a bootstrap on which other things are booted.
A lot of people can't tell the difference, so eg theists claim deity-belief is innate when they actually learn it from their parents.
>We are entitled to the full exercise of our genetic legacy as long as >this exercise occurs within the permitted bounds of society. There is >an ambiguity there, of course, and part of our task is to decide these >boundaries. Certainly, any such decision is better informed by >knowledge of our innate capacities than lack of knowledge of same. >Our history is a record of defilement of our genetic legacy. There >were many reasons for this: ignorance, of course; othodoxy, belief, >myth, coercion, empire, privation, necessity....but now, as I say in >another current posting, we are due the truth - mainly because we now >know more of the truth, are more free, more enlightened. > >Joseph H > >www.humanisation.org > >OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE THE TRUTH
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 | | From: | Nemesis_2 at hotmail.co.uk | | Subject: | Re: A CHARTER FOR HUMANITY - 2 | | Date: | 23 Jan 2005 14:13:54 -0800 |
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 | joseph@humanisation.org wrote: > Christopher A. Lee wrote: > > > Some might be hard wired at birth. Most aren't. We are born with a > > capacity to absorb programming, which we learn in our formative > years. > > These become almost hard-wired, and form a bootstrap on which other > > things are booted. > > > Joseph H writes: Well, fair enough. But that's all part of what we are. > To be able to absorb programming to that extent is itself a > considerable ability. We will be a long time trying to teach a dog to > talk or to believe in god. > > Joseph H
Joseph, so we have particular abilities...so what? What exactly are you saying? Nail it down. For all our sakes.
Nemesis
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 | | From: | joseph at humanisation.org | | Subject: | Re: A CHARTER FOR HUMANITY - 2 | | Date: | 23 Jan 2005 02:02:11 -0800 |
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 | Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> Some might be hard wired at birth. Most aren't. We are born with a > capacity to absorb programming, which we learn in our formative years. > These become almost hard-wired, and form a bootstrap on which other > things are booted. > Joseph H writes: Well, fair enough. But that's all part of what we are. To be able to absorb programming to that extent is itself a considerable ability. We will be a long time trying to teach a dog to talk or to believe in god.
Joseph H
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